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xoxoxoBruce 02-23-2008 12:59 AM

Mother of all Meltdowns
 
Martin Wolf cites Nouriel Roubini, of New York University’s Stern School of Business, predictions for the mother of all economic meltdowns.
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Recently, Professor Roubini’s scenarios have been dire enough to make the flesh creep. But his thinking deserves to be taken seriously. He first predicted a US recession in July 2006*. At that time, his view was extremely controversial. It is so no longer. Now he states that there is “a rising probability of a ‘catastrophic’ financial and economic outcome”**. The characteristics of this scenario are, he argues: “A vicious circle where a deep recession makes the financial losses more severe and where, in turn, large and growing financial losses and a financial meltdown make the recession even more severe.”

Prof Roubini is even fonder of lists than I am. Here are his 12 – yes, 12 – steps to financial disaster.

Step one is the worst housing recession in US history. House prices will, he says, fall by 20 to 30 per cent from their peak, which would wipe out between $4,000bn and $6,000bn in household wealth. Ten million households will end up with negative equity and so with a huge incentive to put the house keys in the post and depart for greener fields. Many more home-builders will be bankrupted.
Read all twelve steps and you'll want to become an alcoholic. :eek:

Griff 02-23-2008 08:27 AM

Well this alchy has been reading about the big one for a long time so I'm not overly concerned. Of course I can easily ramp up food production and get an extra couple boxes of ammo...:cool:

slang 02-23-2008 12:08 PM

This all seems perfectly believable to me.

Griff - Buy more than a few boxes of ammo. Buy a reloader and stockpile components.

If something like this does happen even if you personally are protected the masses of affected people will be difficult to repel.

It's seriously difficult to imagine what this meltdown would look like in real life. Maybe something like after the 1929 crash? Twenty percent of people wandering around looking for work that isn't there?

As much as I'd like to believe that the situation is going to somehow get better, gut feeling says otherwise.

Trilby 02-23-2008 12:56 PM

what have I said? Barack, the Anti-Christ, will win and that'll be the start; he'll be in office until 12-21-2012 and then: BAM!


end of the world.com

I hope being a non-Christian won't piss off God. *sighs*

grassy 02-23-2008 01:18 PM

Hey?
 
Hey? i think it might be the big MELTDOWN? Its been coming for a long long time. Anyway? ever thought of this? How are they going to give the baby boomers their retirement? All that money in their 401k's has already been spent. In theory?Hasnt it? I have been waiting for this since 1996. Obama? the antichrist? could be? It is an interesting time to be alive, just hang onto your hat! cindy

Undertoad 02-23-2008 01:57 PM

When apples are popular, sell apples; when pessimism is popular, sell doom.

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He first predicted a US recession in July 2006. At that time, his view was extremely controversial. It is so no longer.
As we have well noted here, recession is inevitable. Predicting recession is no more interesting than predicting the Summer.

The last round of economists predicting doom happened after Enron and the Andersen accounting scandals. Those predictions were followed by a boom. Go figure.

DanaC 02-23-2008 02:09 PM

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When apples are popular, sell apples; when pessimism is popular, sell doom.
Oh that's beautiful.

Trilby 02-23-2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 434494)
Oh that's beautiful.

He has a beaUtiful mind!

Undertoad 02-23-2008 02:21 PM

thanks D and B!

elSicomoro 02-23-2008 06:31 PM

Fuck that...I'm selling pomegranates...they're the next big thing.

Griff 02-23-2008 06:32 PM

gd speculator

smoothmoniker 02-23-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 434490)
Predicting recession is no more interesting than predicting the Summer.

Holy crap, there's gonna be a SUMMER? Why didn't anyone WARN US!

elSicomoro 02-23-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 434522)
gd speculator

Mr. "I'm not buying into the digital TV Conspiracy"

xoxoxoBruce 02-23-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 434490)
When apples are popular, sell apples; when pessimism is popular, sell doom.

Yes, but this guy has laid it out in 12 steps, not vague predictions of doom. It will be easy to follow along and see if he was right or not

richlevy 02-24-2008 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 434524)
Holy crap, there's gonna be a SUMMER? Why didn't anyone WARN US!

Speak for yourself. I've been hoarding sunscreen and Krugerrands for months.


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