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busterb 05-01-2008 08:40 PM

Holtzapffel Lathe
 
Long yes.
A few weeks back, David, a friend of Shines, was rebuilding an old lathe of his dads. Damn at the gears, wish I'd made photos. Anyway I told of something I'd read about a lathe for turning Ivory for billiard balls. I search on Google for all the names I could and could find nothing that looked right. I kept coming up with the name.Holtzapffel.

So one rainy day I started to look thru old House Mechanics and Popular Science magazines. Shine came by to trim a few limbs for me with his limb saw. I told him would be at bottom of stack and was.
An April 1989 Popular Science. Maybe someone knows how to look at their data and see if it's there? Only way I know to post is scan the pages as photos, boy that'll be large.
Then maybe no one has any interest in this?

Anyway, that was the correct name.

In 1989 a guy in N.O. LA had one and stated. "I could spend the rest of my working with the lathe ever day. My children and their children and their children and their children's children could do the same, and and none of us would have to duplicate a design or decoration unless we chose to."

Here' a thing from Wikipeida.
Holtzapffel & Co. was a tool and lathe making company in London, founded by German immigrant, John Jacob Holtzapffel in 1793. The firm specialized in lathes for ornamental turning, something that was a popular leisure occupation for gentlemen at that time. Many ornamental lathes were bought by the aristocracy, and those made by Holtzapffel & Co. were considered the best.

Between 1785 and 1787, John Jacob Holtzapffel moved from his native Alsace to live in London. In 1793 he started an engineer’s tool business and he sold his first lathe on 31 June 1795, for £ 25-4s-10d, an enormous price at the time. All of Holtzapffel’s lathes were numbered and by the time he died in 1835, about 1600 had been sold. The business was located at 64 Charing Cross Road, London.

John’s son, Charles joined the firm in 1827, and continued to run it after his father’s death. He started a five volume series of books entitled Turning and Mechanical Manipulation, containing some 3000 pages, and which came to be regarded as the bible of ornamental turning. The first three volumes were published in 1843, but the final two volumes were completed and published after his death, by his son, John J. Holtzapffel. Charles Holtzapffel died in 1847, and his wife Amelia ran the business until 1853. In 1867 Charles and Amelia’s son John Jacob II became head of the firm in 1867. He ran the firm until 1896 and died in 1897. A nephew of Charles, George William Budd, became head of the firm in 1896, but after the end of the nineteenth century, ornamental turning went out of fashion, and sales declined.

footfootfoot 05-01-2008 09:10 PM

I thought you might have meant these folks:
http://holzapfelwoodworking.com/michelle/index.html

busterb 05-01-2008 09:33 PM

Nice, but no.

busterb 05-01-2008 09:35 PM

Here's a link I found about the Mag. Go to top of page to start.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...history.htm#h6

xoxoxoBruce 05-02-2008 12:24 AM

It's a shame there's no pictures of one of those lathes on the net. I'd love to see it.

glatt 05-02-2008 08:30 AM

foot powered? Amazing.

Years ago, I saw in the old Arts and Industries Smithsonian museum (which has since been converted into a crappy interactive museum with lights and buzzers for kids) a human powered table saw. It was the same size and shape as a regular table saw, but had a heavy flywheel and a hand crank on either side. Two people would crank the thing while one person operated the saw. It actually looked like it would work really well.

glatt 05-02-2008 08:54 AM

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I just found this picture of one. It was in this unlabeled directory of pictures.

Apparently the Lynn Historical Woodworking Museum in New Zealand has three of these lathes.

busterb 05-02-2008 02:36 PM

A few misc. photos here http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/r...s1=Holtzapffel

busterb 05-02-2008 08:24 PM

Another nice link. All are pdf and can be dnloaded, saved.
http://www.the-sot.com/craft.html

xoxoxoBruce 05-02-2008 11:23 PM

I'd rather have that Geometric chuck, than a Rolex.:D

busterb 05-04-2008 02:04 PM

While digging through the mags, I ran across an article about Babbage machines. Which I tossed, then found parts were made by the lathe. Just damn.
Babbage's engines were among the first mechanical computers

busterb 05-15-2008 08:13 PM

Photos of pages are up.click photo
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2142/...4b96fa08_o.jpg

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2008 08:59 PM

Outstanding Buster, thank you!

Elspode 05-15-2008 11:42 PM

Hmmm...sez they're making them right here in my town! Gonna have to see this place.

Elspode 05-15-2008 11:46 PM

How old is that article? Sez online that they've moved to Lee's Summit, which is the city to the East of Raytown.


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