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TheMercenary 05-05-2008 03:59 PM

Who should MDs let die in a pandemic?
 
The report is out. A group of influential doctors has made the hard choices that will have to be made in the case of a deadly pandemic.

Those out of luck are the people at high risk of death and a slim chance of long-term survival. But the recommendations get much more specific, and include:

_People older than 85.

_Those with severe trauma, which could include critical injuries from car crashes and shootings.

_Severely burned patients older than 60.

_Those with severe mental impairment, which could include advanced Alzheimer's disease.

_Those with a severe chronic disease, such as advanced heart failure, lung disease or poorly controlled diabetes.

The rest of the story is here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080505/...8BMrL4S4hZ24cA

glatt 05-05-2008 04:12 PM

I'm curious about this. If you are bothering to make a list to prioritize medical resources, why not go all the way? Why not do every different category of human and make a pecking order from the top to the bottom? We know there is a pecking order at both ends. The US President officially gets the best care. At the other extreme, they're apparently gonna pull the plug on the very injured and elderly.

What about the 95% in the middle? Do we just duke it out for the respirators?

TheMercenary 05-05-2008 04:15 PM

Good questions. Lets think about it. Others at the top of the list.

Public servants like police, firemen, EMS.

All health care workers.

All military.

High ranking government officials, local and national.

Others?

TheMercenary 05-05-2008 04:16 PM

People who are screwed.

The poor in urban and rural areas.

illegal aliens (you hear that Radar! :lol2:) seriously.

The handicapped.

Anyone with long term chronic expensive illness like HIV or Hepatitis.

others?

Ibby 05-05-2008 05:37 PM

Women and children first!

...wait a sec...

TheMercenary 05-05-2008 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 451169)
Women and children first!

...wait a sec...

Women and children should be protected to preserve civilization. You can't breed em without the women.

xoxoxoBruce 05-05-2008 05:46 PM

"We know there is a pecking order"
 
1- Me.
2- Everybody else.

Sundae 05-05-2008 05:55 PM

Bruce has it.
Except that he has the wrong person on the top of the list.

piercehawkeye45 05-05-2008 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 451171)
Women and children should be protected to preserve civilization. You can't breed em without the women.

Yes yes.

Ten women to every man.


As long as I'm one of those men....

TheMercenary 05-05-2008 05:57 PM

Now will they do the German Eugenics thing or the Noah and the Ark thing?

Pie 05-05-2008 05:58 PM

Eh, screw civilization. Join the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. I did.

TheMercenary 05-05-2008 06:03 PM

"Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed..."

Ummmm, sure.... ummm, tell it to the Chinese, Indian's, and Mexican's.

Cloud 05-05-2008 06:09 PM

this seems logical to me. I'm sure triage is a heart-rending task, and perhaps having this thought out beforehand will ease the way.

Sundae 05-05-2008 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 451191)
"Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed..."

Ummmm, sure.... ummm, tell it to the Chinese

You are kidding, right?
Referring to the nation that did all it could to prevent parents having more than one child?

Anyway - I have voluntarily ceased to breed.
Can I have my medal now please?

HungLikeJesus 05-05-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 451191)
"Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed..."

Ummmm, sure.... ummm, tell it to the Chinese, Indian's, and Mexican's.

Don't you mean "Chinese's"?


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