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BigV 07-17-2008 09:44 AM

Jeep Liberty
 
Discuss.

lookout123 07-17-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

give me liberty or give me...
i'd choose death.

BigV 07-17-2008 10:30 AM

Our lovely daughter is leaning away from death and toward the Liberty. She test drove one Sunday and loves it. Now we're trying to find a way for her to get one.

lumberjim 07-17-2008 10:31 AM

new one?

BigV 07-17-2008 10:34 AM

Unlikely, given her financial resources. Champagne tastes, etc, etc.

Griff 07-17-2008 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 469720)
Discuss.

tweener for size, good if you don't wanna shrink down to a CRV class for gas mileage or go up to Tahoe class because of lack of same...

lookout123 07-17-2008 10:42 AM

My only negative experience with the Liberty was the backseat. the doorframe and seat were positioned so that it was difficult to do without slamming your hip into the frame. or i could just be retarded. probably the second option.

BrianR 07-17-2008 11:03 AM

What year are we talking about?

The early ones had a lot of bugs and problems. The engine gives poor mileage if you don't baby it. The fit and finish has been getting better but still isn't up to standards. Interior design has gripes too.

I have a friend who had one for three and got rid of it as soon as he could pay it off. He (and his wife) hated it and like the Pathfinder better.

lumberjim 07-17-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 469744)
What year are we talking about?

The early ones had a lot of bugs and problems. The engine gives poor mileage if you don't baby it. The fit and finish has been getting better but still isn't up to standards. Interior design has gripes too.

I have a friend who had one for three and got rid of it as soon as he could pay it off. He (and his wife) hated it and like the Pathfinder better.

no they didn't. the liberty and the pt cruiser were jeep's and chrysler's most reliable vehicles in 02-03. the only recurrant issue the liberty had was a heat shield rattle. It's a good car for a young person. handles tight, great off road or in snow, and sturdy.

If you can find one at an import dealer, you might get a better deal.

Shawnee123 07-17-2008 11:20 AM

God I hate PT cruisers.

BigV 07-17-2008 11:45 AM

There's an 05 with 55k miles for about $12K. An 06 with 108K miles for $8K.

Trying to economize on $$, size is just right.

What do you mean about an import dealer, lj?

BrianR 07-17-2008 11:50 AM

According to Car survey, it's so-so. It appears that some cars were good and some were bad, depending on who built it, I guess.

sweetwater 07-17-2008 11:54 AM

Are there features in the Liberty not available in other vehicles, or other practical reason to have it, like cargo hauling ability?

BigV 07-17-2008 12:07 PM

There's no aspect of the Liberty (as far as I can see) that is the ultimate expression of that aspect, size, mileage, economy, ruggedness, cuteness, cargo space, etc, etc.

It does have an early, but probably not insurmountable lead in "I like it-ness" since she has driven a couple cars and likes that model the best. She's being quite rational in her decision making process, considering many aspects of the whole car buying/owning adventure.

I think, if anything, she's underestimating the burden a five year loan represents. She's not (completely) swayed by the emotional response to one vehicle or another. She wants a nice car. I think this could be a nice car. She is coming to understand the economics of owning the car (payment, gas, maintenance, insurance, etc).

Other contenders:

Saturn Vue

Honda CRV

Toyota RAV-4

Suzuki SX4

Current ride:

Volkswagen Golf

HungLikeJesus 07-17-2008 12:11 PM

The 2007 Jeep Liberty fuel mileage:
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2007 Vehicles by Jeep

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6 cyl, 3.7 L, Automatic 4-spd, Regular 15 21 $3599
Jeep Liberty/Cherokee 2WD
6 cyl, 3.7 L, Manual 6-spd, Regular 16 20 $3599
Jeep Liberty/Cherokee 4WD
6 cyl, 3.7 L, Automatic 4-spd, Regular 15 20 $3599
Jeep Liberty/Cherokee 4WD
6 cyl, 3.7 L, Manual 6-spd, Regular 16 20 $3599
(Sorry about the table formatting.)

Considering gas prices, I'm surprised you're not looking for something with lower operating costs.


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