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Flint 10-02-2008 02:20 PM

Ending on "9"
 
When a song ends on a final downbeat, the "1" of a measure that isn't played out, I call that "ending on 9." Does anybody else consider the end of a song to be a single measure of 9/8?

BigV 10-02-2008 02:25 PM

yes.




















happy now?

Pie 10-02-2008 02:26 PM

whatthehuuuh?
:confused:

dar512 10-02-2008 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 489152)
When a song ends on a final downbeat, the "1" of a measure that isn't played out, I call that "ending on 9." Does anybody else consider the end of a song to be a single measure of 9/8?

No. I consider it a hanging measure with a single beat and a long rest.

Most music is written that way.

Same with pickup notes at the beginning of a song.

I think most musicians would expect 9/8 to have a different rhythm.

Undertoad 10-02-2008 03:27 PM

What about starting on 4 or 3 1/2? Does that mean there's a new "1" and we have to revise the count?

J always argues with me because she enjoys it.

UT: Whenever I'm walking and there's music, I have to put my left foot down on 1. Because I was in marching band.
J: 1 is meaningless. What if they called one "7"?
UT: There's still 1. There will always be 1.
J: But if one was called "7" there wouldn't be 1.
UT: No, it's a musical thing, there's always a 1. There has to be, it's natural and instinctive.
J: But still - what if there was no number one?
UT: No mathematical 1? You're just playing with me now.

dar512 10-02-2008 03:32 PM

There can only be one.

lumberjim 10-02-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 489171)
~~ Because I was in marching band.
~~.

FAG

BigV 10-02-2008 03:56 PM

Keepin it on the one:


Bullitt 10-02-2008 04:21 PM

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limey 10-06-2008 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 489168)
No. I consider it a hanging measure with a single beat and a long rest.

Most music is written that way.

Same with pickup notes at the beginning of a song.

I think most musicians would expect 9/8 to have a different rhythm.

I'm with dar on this one. 9/8 would be three beats subdivided into 3 sub-beats ...

ZenGum 10-06-2008 07:45 AM

Well if it is ending on a ONE the dynamics would give it away.
I'll explain my point of view with 4/4 time to save me typing.

We don't play one two three four. We play ONE two THREE four.

So you can play
ONE two THREE four ONE.
Or
ONE two THREE four five.

If you do the former, your ending one one. If the latter, you're ending on five (or nine, as the case may be.)

My tastes as a strictly amateur guitarist would be ending on ONE. Or maybe four. I can never stop at one.

SteveDallas 10-06-2008 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 489171)
J: But still - what if there was no number one?
UT: No mathematical 1? You're just playing with me now.

There might not be a numeral 1.
There would still be a number 1.

Trilby 10-06-2008 09:59 AM

11.

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monster 10-08-2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 490350)
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