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dar512 07-08-2009 11:47 AM

Arctic ice thinned dramatically since 2004 - NASA
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...33879120090707

Flint 07-08-2009 11:52 AM

Well, sure, if you believe the tie-dyed liberal claptrap that comes out of Reuters.

Pie 07-08-2009 11:55 AM

Sea level rise: It's worse than we thought

Undertoad 07-08-2009 12:59 PM

Antarctic ice thickened for two decades - NASA

dar512 07-08-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 580315)

That's the answer then. It's all slipping to the bottom. :D

ZenGum 07-08-2009 09:42 PM

So, the planet needs a facelift?

dar512 07-08-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 580389)
So, the planet needs a facelift?

Well, she's not getting any younger.

xoxoxoBruce 07-09-2009 12:51 AM

From dar's link;
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The research team blamed these changes on recent warming and anomalies in sea ice circulation.
From UT's link;
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"You can see with this dataset that what is happening in the Antarctic is not what would be expected from a straightforward global warming scenario, but a much more complicated set of events," Parkinson said.
They're still guessing.

spudcon 07-11-2009 01:12 PM

It doesn't matter what the facts are, the man made global warming crowd are going to blame it all on greedy republican capitalists.

tw 07-11-2009 03:58 PM

From the Washington Post of 9 Jul 2009:
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When it comes to climate change, the teaching of evolution and the state of the nation’s research enterprise, there is a large gap between what scientists think and the views of ordinary Americans, a new survey has found. ...

According to the survey, about a third of Americans think there is lively scientific debate on both topics; in fact, there is no credible scientific challenge to the theory of evolution and there is little doubt that human activity is altering the chemistry of the atmosphere in ways that threaten global climate.
When I read posts based in a political agenda, I am reminded of the same thinking process that *proved* Saddam had WMDs. Even when numbers exposed those claims as unfounded, some still knew WMDs must exist. Even when the numbers bluntly demonstrate man-made global warming exists, these same *experts* deny it.

From a recent survey by the American Association for the Advancement of Science:
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near consensus among scientists about global warming is not mirrored in the general public. While 84% of scientists say the earth is getting warmer because of human activity such as burning fossil fuels, just 49% of the public agrees.
The survey even says why. 85% of scientists say "Public does not know very much about science". 76% say "News does not distinguish between well-founded findings and those are not."

No doubt that mankind has created global warming. The *smoking gun* evidence that decimated any opposition among scientist was published a few years ago. The controversy is only about how the numbers – how much. And still those who parrot a political agenda will deny science.

If he knew, he posted numbers. No numbers says exactly where his information comes from. Exact same source that proved those WMDs - also without numbers.

spudcon 07-11-2009 10:20 PM

Consensus among scientists is not science. Scientific method is. I have seen no proof of any of the veracity of the man made global warming, despite what the Al Gore Bible thumpers all agree on.
Oh, and that goes for evolution also. No scientific method, just egg head consensus. Show me duplicatable evidence.

xoxoxoBruce 07-11-2009 10:34 PM

I just read an article in the Philly paper about an Italian Doctor that runs a $20 million a year cancer research center at I think it was Ohio State.

He (they) just made some amazing breakthroughs after 20 years of beating their heads against the wall, because they accepted what was common knowledge, know fact, about DNA structure and function in the medical research field.

Well, those known facts were wrong, even though the entire medical research Field accepted them by consensus. He pointed out most of them would get little research money if they didn't agree with the consensus.


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