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TheMercenary 06-15-2010 05:44 PM

UN Enters the Gun Control Debate in the US
 
Let's see if the Obama Administration caves to the gun grabbers...

http://www.poa-iss.org/PoA/poahtml.aspx

tw 06-15-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 663329)
Let's see if the Obama Administration caves to the gun grabbers...

OMG - the UN is again threatening to take over the US. Thank god the Michigan Militia and other wacko extremists stand up and defend us.

lookout123 06-15-2010 06:26 PM

That link is broken. What was the story?

TheMercenary 06-15-2010 07:19 PM

Hmmm

UN Small arms control which directly would counter our Constitution.

Let me look for another link.

xoxoxoBruce 06-15-2010 09:45 PM

They are seeking to stop the illicit international small arms trade. How does that affect us?

classicman 06-15-2010 10:07 PM

Programme of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects
Quote:

I. Preamble

1. We, the States participating in the United Nations Conference on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects, having met in New York from 9 to 20 July 2001,
blah blah blah l
22. Resolve therefore to prevent, combat and eradicate the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons in all its aspects by:
Bold mine - is this really from 9 years ago?

xoxoxoBruce 06-15-2010 10:16 PM

Sure, but it's Obama's fault.:rolleyes:

Redux 06-15-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 663394)
Sure, but it's Obama's fault.:rolleyes:

Only if you buy into the NRA rhetoric and dont look at the UN proposal to limit small arms smuggling objectively...and of course we know that Obama is intent on taking away your guns, the NRA said so. ;)

TheMercenary 06-16-2010 07:57 PM

If you buy into the UN proposal you are giving away our Constitutional Rights. Fuck anyone who says it is about the NRA. They are plants.

DanaC 06-16-2010 08:41 PM

Wait, what? They are looking to stop illicit trading in guns....how is that against your constitution?

xoxoxoBruce 06-17-2010 12:04 AM

It's not Dana, he's just doing the knee jerk shuffle. :rolleyes:

DanaC 06-17-2010 05:47 AM

Aheh. Gotcha :)

classicman 06-17-2010 08:10 AM

Wait - what about that link being 9 years old? Whats the deal with that?

dmg1969 06-17-2010 11:57 AM

I am not in favor of the U.N. trying to dictate ANY policy inside the borders of the United States. The U.N. is a paper tiger anyway. Just watch and see how hard and fast the latest sanctions against Iran are enforced.

The U.N. has no authority to dictate laws about firearms in the U.S. Any laws passed will not be recognized by me or the millions of other gun owners in this country. Period.

Redux 06-17-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dmg1969 (Post 663882)
I am not in favor of the U.N. trying to dictate ANY policy inside the borders of the United States. The U.N. is a paper tiger anyway. Just watch and see how hard and fast the latest sanctions against Iran are enforced.

The U.N. has no authority to dictate laws about firearms in the U.S. Any laws passed will not be recognized by me or the millions of other gun owners in this country. Period.

As I understand the proposed UN treaty, it addresses the issue of the illegal international sale or smuggling of conventional weapons...from land mines to small arms. The draft is based on current US policies...the intent is to standardize it internationally.

There is nothing in the proposal that would have any impact on owners of handguns, unless you are a smuggler.

It is much like many other existing treaties that deal with illegal activities across national borders.

Further, as a treaty, it would require 2/3 vote in the Senate....so anything that even has whiff of possibly being an infringement of Second Amendment rights would never see the light of day. IMO, the idea that it is a backdoor approach to getting at the guns of gun owners is nonsense.

added:
What I think it as objective article.


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