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monster 10-28-2010 08:17 AM

No health benefits from breast-feeding
 
according to the IRS

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/27/bu...east.html?_r=1

:mad2: nuts. absolutely insane.

Shawnee123 10-28-2010 08:36 AM

Seconded.

glatt 10-28-2010 08:38 AM

I see their logic. They view breast milk as a healthy food, not medicine. They also won't let you buy a frying pan with your medical flexible spending account money so you can cook up some healthy salmon.

monster 10-28-2010 08:48 AM

But breast-feeding is indicated in reducing the risk of breast cancer.......

glatt 10-28-2010 09:00 AM

Yeah, if it were up to me, I'd include them. It's not like it's going to bankrupt the government. And you buy them at a drug store, not a grocery store. But I agree with their point that breast milk is food, not medicine.

monster 10-28-2010 09:23 AM

But you're not buying the milk. you're buying the apparatus to help you breast feed

Shawnee123 10-28-2010 09:31 AM

Just as buying artificial turf because your kid is allergic to grass. Acupuncture. Swedish Penis Enlarger.

And this (from IRS website Pub 502 for 2009):

Meals
You can include in medical expenses the cost of meals at a hospital or similar institution if a principal reason for being there is to get medical care.

You cannot include in medical expenses the cost of meals that are not part of inpatient care.

footfootfoot 10-28-2010 09:55 AM

Obviously the infant formula lobby can kick the living shit out of the breast pump manufacturer's lobby with one arm tied behind its back.

Did you really think this has anything to do with logic and reason, or were you being
(choose all that apply)
a)Rhetorical
b)Ironical
c)sarcastical

Pico and ME 10-28-2010 10:01 AM

This could have been a perfect example of the incentives Clod was talking about in another post.

Hmmm, me thinks the formula industry whispered in their ear.

EDIT: Goddamn it Foot, if only I'd pushed enter sooner.

glatt 10-28-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 691024)
But you're not buying the milk. you're buying the apparatus to help you breast feed

Fish is healthy for you. Should a fishing pole be covered?

I'm not arguing against pumps, because I think they are great, but a pump is there for convenience. The breasts work just fine for delivering the food directly to the baby. The pump is there so the baby can get the same healthy food even if the mom has to be somewhere else.

Other baby convenience items like diapers are not covered.

If breast feeding lowers risks for cancer, then that's a good argument, but then you also need to make sex toys for men be covered, because masturbation lowers risks for prostate cancer. Maybe an old dude just needs his Real Doll to get off.

It's interesting that programs to help you stop smoking are covered, so there is precedence for paying for things that lower your risk of cancer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 691026)
Just as buying artificial turf because your kid is allergic to grass. Acupuncture. Swedish Penis Enlarger.

Well I don't know if any of those are actually covered, maybe acupuncture, but there are some interesting things that are covered, like high spf sunscreen.

monster 10-28-2010 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 691040)
Fish is healthy for you. Should a fishing pole be covered?.

Well, is the act of fishing good for you? as in, does it have documented health benefits for the entire group of people who undertake that activity vs those who don't?

Pico and ME 10-28-2010 10:09 AM

Breast feeding, I do believe is the ultimate health benefit that millions of babies just aren't getting. If breast pumps were 'incenitfied', then maybe more women would be inclined to do it and then maybe more babies would grow into healthier adults.

glatt 10-28-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 691044)
Well, is the act of fishing good for you? as in, does it have documented health benefits for the entire group of people who undertake that activity vs those who don't?

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 691040)
If breast feeding lowers risks for cancer, then that's a good argument, but then you also need to make sex toys for men be covered, because masturbation lowers risks for prostate cancer. Maybe an old dude just needs his Real Doll to get off.


glatt 10-28-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 691046)
Breast feeding, I do believe is the ultimate health benefit that millions of babies just aren't getting. If breast pumps were 'incenitfied', then maybe more women would be inclined to do it and then maybe more babies would grow into healthier adults.

I agree. This gets into the same idea as Clodfobble's posts to create incentives for healthy food. Blueberries should be cheap, and ramen noodles should be expensive.

Shawnee123 10-28-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 691040)
~snip~
Well I don't know if any of those are actually covered, maybe acupuncture, but there are some interesting things that are covered, like high spf sunscreen.

The astroturf thing was in the article and the acupunture was on the IRS website. The Penis Enlarger was completely a product of my vivid imagination. :p:


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