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infinite monkey 06-20-2011 01:24 PM

Climate change cause Viking community to collapse?
 
Our changing climate usually appears to be a very modern problem, yet new research from Greenland published in Boreas, suggests that the AD 1350 collapse of a centuries old colony established by Viking settlers may have been caused by declining temperatures and a rise in sea-ice. The authors suggest the collapse of the Greenland Norse presents a historical example of a society which failed to adapt to climate change. The research, led by Dr Sofia Ribeiro from the University of Copenhagen, currently at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, focused on Disko Bay in Western Greenland and used a marine sediment record to reconstruct climate change over the last 1500 years.

Our study indicates that at the time the Norse arrived in West Greenland, climate conditions were relatively mild and were favorable to the settlers" said Ribeiro. "However, in AD 1350 the settlement collapsed, the cause of which has long been debated."

The marine perspective of the research is especially relevant as the Norse inhabited inner fjord areas. The team's research compared robust air temperature reconstructions based on ice-core data with their own marine record. The results underline the regional complexity of climate patterns in the study area, which may vary from ice core reconstructions, and are strongly controlled by the fluctuating influence of "warm" Atlantic waters entrained by the West Greenland Current.

"Our study shows a major shift towards cooler conditions and extensive sea-ice which coincides with the estimated time for the collapse of the Western Settlement in AD 1350," said Dr Ribeiro. "The Norse were proud of being Europeans, farmers and Christians, and never adopted the hunting and survival techniques of the Inuit, so these temperature shifts would have caused significant problems for the colonists and their livestock."

Agricultural difficulties are believed to have forced the Norse to rely on marine resources, yet the increase in sea-ice, the team suggests, would have had a major impact on species such as migratory seals, while blocking trade routes.

"We cannot attribute the end of the Norse civilisation to a single factor, but there is enough evidence to suggest that climate change played a major role in determining its collapse," concluded Ribeiro. "Harsh climate conditions made farming and cattle production increasingly difficult and the extensive sea-ice prevented navigation and trading with Europe."

"There is perhaps an important lesson to learn from the Norse collapse and that is a lesson of adaptation, of being able to adjust our values and life-style when times change. That is an important challenge we face today as a society."

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piercehawkeye45 06-20-2011 08:09 PM

Jared Diamond's Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed goes into this along with some other failed civilizations, but from more of a overusing resources perspective.

Though I agree that we need to start focusing more on adaption to the current climate change than attempting to completely prevent or revert it.

TheMercenary 06-22-2011 09:06 AM

Save the Vikings!

SamIam 06-23-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 741077)
Jared Diamond's Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed goes into this along with some other failed civilizations, but from more of a overusing resources perspective.

Though I agree that we need to start focusing more on adaption to the current climate change than attempting to completely prevent or revert it.

Yeah, Diamond's book came out in 2005 - excellent reading, but I don't see why someone feels compelled to parrot Diamond's findings now. :eyebrow:

wolf 06-23-2011 08:09 PM

And here all this time I assumed it was Christianity that brought the downfall of the Vikings.

Weather. Well, it could have been the Gods being mad at them, I suppose, so it's still Christianity's fault.

SamIam 06-23-2011 08:53 PM

Actually, if you read Diamond's book, he makes an excellent argument that Christianity did indeed contribute to the failure of the Norse settlements in Greenland. So, there you go.

wolf 06-23-2011 10:02 PM

I know my people.

Viking FARMERS? Come on! They were seafarers, raiders, and conquerors, not hoers of dirt.

Nirvana 06-23-2011 10:23 PM

Yah they were dirtiers of hoers!

classicman 06-24-2011 07:58 AM

lol - good one, Nirvana.

footfootfoot 06-24-2011 10:27 PM

It takes a Viking to raze a village.

BigV 06-24-2011 10:46 PM

There were pirates/vikings at the Slutwalk sunday. They had an awesome sign:

"All pillage, no rape"

wolf 06-25-2011 11:12 AM

There's a natural order to things ... Rape, Pillage, then Burn.


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