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monster 09-04-2011 06:23 PM

American Grammar Help, please...
 
XYZ Synchronized Swim Team

are proud to present



OR



XYZ Synchronized Swim Team

is proud to present

footfootfoot 09-04-2011 06:24 PM

is this country a group is singular

monster 09-04-2011 06:38 PM

thanks, that's what I thought, wanted to make sure ..it's treated as a plural in Brit English.

Clodfobble 09-04-2011 06:56 PM

Officially, it can be either depending on the intent. But in common usage, people would expect "is" for a swim team.

monster 09-04-2011 07:03 PM

thanks, common usage is what i need :)

Pico and ME 09-04-2011 07:27 PM

If it was the XYZ Synchronized Swimmers, then 'are' would be appropriate...

BigV 09-04-2011 11:32 PM

When I listen to the sports news on the BBC, I find it a little jarring to hear the team's name used as a plural. "Arsenal are..." etc.

DanaC 09-05-2011 03:29 AM

'is' can also be used but it depends on context.

ZenGum 09-05-2011 06:24 AM

I find it particularly jarring when a team with a plural countable-noun name (say, the Denver Broncos) are playing a team with an uncountable noun name (Miami Heat).

"Miami Heat is in the lead, but the Broncos are closing fast..." Ugh.

monster 09-05-2011 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 754492)
When I listen to the sports news on the BBC, I find it a little jarring to hear the team's name used as a plural. "Arsenal are..." etc.

That's only because you don't know how to speak proper.

glatt 09-05-2011 06:55 AM

Zen, how do you know about the Miami Heat? Do they really get coverage in Australia? Or is their name just a joke there?

footfootfoot 09-05-2011 07:28 AM

It's a dry heat

xyz synchronized swimmerS makes it plural. TeamS would also be plural.

BigV 09-05-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 754510)
I find it particularly jarring when a team with a plural countable-noun name (say, the Denver Broncos) are playing a team with an uncountable noun name (Miami Heat).

"Miami Heat is in the lead, but the Broncos are closing fast..." Ugh.

This is what I'm talking about. CLANG!!

BigV 09-05-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 754515)
That's only because you don't know how to speak proper.

So stipulated.

Griff 09-05-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 754510)
I find it particularly jarring when a team with a plural countable-noun name (say, the Denver Broncos) are playing a team with an uncountable noun name (Miami Heat).

"Miami Heat is in the lead, but the Broncos are closing fast..." Ugh.

Especially jarring is one playing Football Americano and the other basketball. :)


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