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JBKlyde 03-09-2012 04:12 PM

Children of Satan Vs Children of God.
 
A random thought of a callus of wickedness that runs deed within the bones of the dead?? Not quite!! Who are Gods Children?? The answer is defined by the way one lives there life. I can claim to be a Christian, and yes I believe Christians are Gods Children. Just as well as Jews are Gods Chosen people, but only the ones who make it to Heaven are actually Gods Children. What makes the difference in some one who is Hell Bound (Satan's Children). VS Someone who is Heaven Bound (God's Children). I think it's as simple as Black and White. I can believe in a lie or I can believe in truth. God is The Truth, and the truth never lies. So Now, I find my self struggling with a lying spirit. The lie is that I am Satan's Child. The Truth is Jesus Loves ME Just as Much as he loves anyone else. It's a matter of who do I believe an how do I discern these spirits that I am being troubled with. I believe that in the past that I left behind I was heading down a highway to hell. Now I am getting off that highway and turning around. "180degrees" it's called REPENTANCE. So where do you stand as Satan's Child or God's Child. It's a disturbing question to ask as well as a disturbing question to answer so why don't you give it a try.

regular.joe 03-09-2012 04:40 PM

If the truth is that Jesus loves me just as much as everyone else, and he died for everyone...then the question is irrelevant.

JBKlyde 03-09-2012 04:47 PM

Not necessarily, you have a choice in the matter, you don't have to believe it. Have you ever read the book of revelation?? Not everyone makes it to heaven my friend. There is a certain amount of discipline that comes with the territory.

HungLikeJesus 03-09-2012 05:11 PM

What about hobbits?

jimhelm 03-09-2012 05:11 PM

If you had never heard of God or Satan... like REALLY never heard of them.

you'd still know right from wrong, wouldn't you? You'd still recognize Evil in people's deeds, and Good.

Do the labels make a difference?

I think of it like a branching path. you begin your life in the center. you're neither good or evil. you make decisions as they come. each decision lies on one side or the other of the path, to varying degrees. the more decisions you make that lie on the side of evil, the more likely you are to continue to make those choices.

You may encounter some major event or philosophy that teaches you that you've been going the wrong way, and then you begin making the right choices... finding your way back to the 'good' side.

your struggles, JB, seem rooted in the fictional aspects of the Xtian religion. It's all allegory. Just do the right thing, and forget about the labels.

infinite monkey 03-09-2012 05:17 PM

Nice post, jim. :)

ZenGum 03-09-2012 05:56 PM

JB, I told you not to get all hung up on the Book of Revelation and stuff like that. It isn't good for you. Focus more on the gospels and Jesus and his message of love. And keep reading widely - human interest things, novels, maybe a bit of history or popular science.

Not Catcher in the Rye.

JBKlyde 03-09-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Keep Your Laws Off My Body
I'd really like to know what you mean by that?? I feel like you are upset with me because I have a link to FIND LAW on my site?? ANy realation??

Griff 03-09-2012 07:35 PM

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/07/148125...phecy-politics

infinite monkey 03-09-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 800740)
I'd really like to know what you mean by that?? I feel like you are upset with me because I have a link to FIND LAW on my site?? ANy realation??

Oh no, not at all. It was a bumper sticker I saw years ago, and with the recent debates about contraception (women's rights) and such, I thought it was a pertinent signature.

It had nothing to do with you or your posts. :)

Spexxvet 03-10-2012 09:30 AM

Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Black and Satanic, red and white
They're all precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world

Whether you're rich or whether you're poor
It matters not to Him
He remembers where you're going
Not where you've been

Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Black and Satanic, red and white
They're all precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world

If your heart is troubled
Don't worry, don't you fret
He knows that you have heard His call
And he won't forget

Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Black and Satanic, red and white
They're all precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world

All around the world tonight
His children rest assured
That He will watch and He will keep us
Safe and secure

Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Black and Satanic, red and white
They're all precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world

Undertoad 03-10-2012 11:28 AM

Revelation was not originally a part of the Holy Bible.

Wikipedia
Quote:

According to Denzinger, Revelation was accepted into the canon at the Council of Carthage of 397 AD, according to McDonald & Sanders it was added at the later 419 council. Revelation's place in the canon was not guaranteed, however, with doubts raised as far back as the 2nd century about its character, symbolism, and apostolic authorship.
There's a monkey wrench, eh? Not God, but Men decided it should be in there.

Clodfobble 03-10-2012 07:45 PM

But it was the pope who ultimately agreed with the council to put it in, see? And just like "if the President does it, it's lawful," so too "if the pope says it, it's godawful godly."


JB, you seem to have quite a lot invested in whether other people go to heaven. I think that this part:

Quote:

So Now, I find my self struggling with a lying spirit. The lie is that I am Satan's Child. The Truth is Jesus Loves ME Just as Much as he loves anyone else.
is what you need to focus on. If you are struggling with feelings of self-worth, explore that and by all means rely on God's love to lift you up. But quit worrying about Satan, and quit thinking about which other groups of people might or might not be in heaven with you.

JBKlyde 03-11-2012 02:48 PM

I think you have to consider that I've been "sweating blood" over this.. and now everyone thinks I'm this pathetic pig stench, but the insecurity is just so intense that I find myself in a situation where my nightmares are controlling me. I dunno apparently this is all stereotypical of a skitzofrientic so I am learning to deal with it... yea of coarse you reap what you sew and I have sewed some ungodly seeds so maybe the false hood will dissipate now that I have gotten myself into a situation where I am stable.

it 03-11-2012 04:47 PM

the fact this thread hasn't being trolled to death and flamed on a crucifix in the two days since its creation is a testimony to the tolerance of the community (or the inactivity).


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