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Undertoad 05-20-2003 10:15 AM

5/20/2003: Fish in a Blender
 
http://cellar.org/2003/fishblender.jpg

In the IotD theme of interesting/controversial art, this is an installation in a Danish museum. Not only are the fish and blenders real, they are plugged in, and a display invites visitors to blend the fish if they like.

The museum director was initially charged with animal cruelty, but he was acquitted yesterday after it was decided that the fish, if they are blended, are killed instantly and thus humanely.

That brings up questions. Why the director? Shouldn't it be the visitors who choose to press the button who are charged? Why was the artist left out of it? If it's OK to kill them, why is it suddenly not OK if it takes a while for them to die?

Is it good art? It's provocative; without even seeing it, all of us are provoked to answer the question of whether we'd press the button. (I wouldn't.)

On the other hand, it's too simple. It's easy to provoke people via cruelty; we are guaranteed to react to it. Art is not good solely because it makes you think. The best art, it seems to me, is deeper and more inspiring as it makes complicated statements in subtle ways.

Maybe one could come up with a complicated statement about this; "Look, the dark side in humanity is all around us, maybe standing right next to you, maybe in your family, and it's demonstrated in simple ways, just by offering the push of a button." But "Duh!" -- we knew that already, and it's been well-explored, and at the end of the day our cruelty is not the truly interesting thing about humanity.

dave 05-20-2003 11:31 AM

Where the hell was this?

Undertoad 05-20-2003 11:44 AM

Trapholt Art Museum in Kolding Denmark.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...ws/5895738.htm

And 05-20-2003 12:15 PM

I can't help but imagine the "artist" standing just out of sight, wringing his hands and grinning broadly, occasionally peeking around the corner at the blenders and snickering...

This is not art. This is a "Hey, wouldn't it be rad if we...!"

Happy Monkey 05-20-2003 01:37 PM

Re: 5/20/2003: Fish in a Blender
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
If it's OK to kill them, why is it suddenly not OK if it takes a while for them to die?
Remember that a goldfish only has 3 seconds of memory. If it takes more than 3 seconds for them to die then they will have been in severe pain for as long as they can remember!

xoxoxoBruce 05-20-2003 01:56 PM

Bass-O-Matic was funny because it was so preposterous.
This is just sick. I don't no much about art, but this ain't it!:vomit:

Cochese 05-20-2003 03:46 PM

Can fish even feel pain?

juju 05-20-2003 04:22 PM

Of course, they're animals.

chrisinhouston 05-20-2003 04:33 PM

The friendly folks at PETA have a viewpoint:
http://www.nofishing.net/pain.html
:cool:

wolf 05-20-2003 05:25 PM

I wonder how many fish they go through in a day? :confused:

dave 05-20-2003 05:36 PM

Two (2) total, apparently. It was pulled after that.

Whit 05-20-2003 06:02 PM

     What's up with those cheap-ass blenders? Only one button, one speed? What's the fun in that?
     I wonder how many people double tapped the button? Ya know, just enough to spin the water a bit, but not actually suck the fish down to it blendery death? Er, not that I'd do, or even think of such a thing...

richlevy 05-20-2003 06:42 PM

A few years back there was a pet store in Delaware on Rte 202 that had a tank of Piranha. For less than a buck you could buy feeder goldfish and drop them in the tank.

Now since the activity which ensued was

a) part of the natural order

and

b) not wasteful since the fish are serving a purpose

does that put it on a higher ethical plane than the blender art?

novice 05-20-2003 09:09 PM

A FRENCH Blender, oui? Merde

elSicomoro 05-20-2003 09:30 PM

Re: 5/20/2003: Fish in a Blender
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Is it good art? It's provocative; without even seeing it, all of us are provoked to answer the question of whether we'd press the button. (I wouldn't.)
For some reason, this reminds me of Stanley Milgram and his wacky experiments from the '60s.

(I'd push the button...what the hell...)


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