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Undertoad 09-05-2003 11:51 AM

9/5/2003: Mom and daughter elephants
 
http://cellar.org/2003/momdaughterphant.jpg

We've had a lot of elephants but this is a particularly pleasant and calming shot. Mom is named Shanthi, baby Kandula. They live at the Smithsonians's National Zoological Park in Washington, DC.

Remember Indian 'phants have small ears, African 'phants have big ears.

Dagney 09-05-2003 12:19 PM

UT..

Is there any backstory on this one? I seem to remeber a story about an elephant birth in the past few months, but I can't find it anywhere.

Dagney

Undertoad 09-05-2003 12:32 PM

I don't think so... the caption information didn't have anything much.

Dagney 09-05-2003 12:39 PM

Thanks anyway! :)

Dagney

daniwong 09-05-2003 12:52 PM

Can I just say aaaaawwwwww! How cute is this picture!!!

lhand 09-05-2003 01:01 PM

And as the tank slowly filled with water....
 
Is it just me, or does it look like they're drowning these elephants?

Beletseri 09-05-2003 01:39 PM

It looks to me like the dome part of the top of the head gets bigger proportionally in the mature elephant. Does this mean its brain grows relatively larger or is that padding? Usually in mammals the young ones have proportionally large heads relative to bodies which is one of those things that make us think all baby mammals are cute.

juju 09-05-2003 02:17 PM

It looks like you're right. According to this link:<blockquote>Interestingly, the growth and development of the elephant's brain is similar to that of mans. Both the elephant and man are born with small brain masses. The mass of the new-born elephant's brain is 35% of that of the adult, while Mans is 26%. Thus, there is considerable growth and development as the calf grows up. As the mass of the brain increases, so does the learning ability of young elephants.</blockquote>Interestingly, our own brains are thought to be large in relation to our body as a result of our ancestors learning to walk upright. The opening in our pubic bone had to be smaller to in order to maintain our new center of gravity, and our babies had to be born with underdeveloped brains in order to fit through it. This, of course, freed the babies' brain to grow much larger than it was previously able to.

Completly unrelated, but I find it interesting, anyway. :)

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2003 04:21 PM

Quote:

Remember Indian 'phants have small ears, African 'phants have big ears.
Isn't that big ears and bigger ears.:D I have a tough time using the words small and elephants together.

elSicomoro 09-05-2003 04:48 PM

Eh, Tony...Kandula is a boy.

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2003 05:23 PM

C'mon, way too young for a sex change.:rolleyes:

Torrere 09-05-2003 05:57 PM

Unfortunately, trying to force babies with big heads through small holes is dangerous. This is why, through history, so many women have died during childbirth.

Griff 09-05-2003 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
Eh, Tony...Kandula is a boy.
Just more biased unfair reporting from Tony.

Undertoad 09-05-2003 08:32 PM

If AFP can't get this right what else do they get wrong?

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2003 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torrere
Unfortunately, trying to force babies with big heads through small holes is dangerous. This is why, through history, so many women have died during childbirth.
That being true, I wonder how some Cellarites got squose.:D


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