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storm 02-07-2004 02:17 AM

football not soccer
 
Why do americans insist on calling american football "football" ?

A football is spherical, football is played by using the foot to control and direct the movement of the ball. American football seems to have more in common with rugby. Does anyone know how this sport came to be called this ?

ps Loved your superbowl, kept me awake until 3:30am over here in London.
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American Football is a mistake. It combines the two worst elements of American life. Violence and committee meetings.

elSicomoro 02-07-2004 03:18 AM

Re: football not soccer
 
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Originally posted by storm
Why do americans insist on calling american football "football" ?
Ummm, well, b/c if we referred to it as anything other than "football" today, it would confuse the shit out of most Americans.

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Does anyone know how this sport came to be called this ?
The name "football" apparently came around the late 19th century, after rugby made its way to the States.

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ps Loved your superbowl, kept me awake until 3:30am over here in London.
It was a good game...probably in the top 10 Super Bowls of all time.

Elspode 02-07-2004 08:37 AM

There was a football game? I thought there was just a tit-flashing incident.

FWIW, I'm a soccer/football fan. English Premiere League games are damn near Rugby, sometimes. Incredible skill levels, unthinkable endurance.

SunderlandTillIDie 05-11-2006 01:53 PM

Soz mate, but football is 'soccer', we (the English) invented the bastard, and every other country which is decent at the game knows it as football. And Elspode, English Premier League (yes, there's no 'e' at the end of premier) football is nout like rugby, how the fuck did you come to that conclusion? Jesus, stick to American games like basketball.
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W.HI.P 05-11-2006 02:03 PM

basketball is not an american sport, it's a european sport.
russia, serbia, lithuania and the latvians have conquered it since it began.

try baseball

and just for the record ...the premiership cannot compare to the campionato

Beestie 05-11-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by W.HI.P
basketball is not an american sport, it's a european sport.

Basketball was invented in 1891 in Springfield, Massachusetts by James Naismith who, incidentally, was Canadian.

glatt 05-11-2006 04:05 PM

Reminds me of another place that likes to brag, but doesn't really deserve to.

North Carolina likes to tell everyone that they invented the airplane. But the Wright brothers were from Ohio, and they basically invented the plane there. They just went to North Carolina to fly it because the state had nice sand dunes.

W.HI.P 05-11-2006 04:26 PM

i didn't say where it was invented, i said where it is being mastered

SunderlandTillIDie 05-12-2006 10:41 AM

Seriously whip, Basketball is American. America, Canada, same fucking thing. And yeah, the English Premiership is the best league in the world, since it has the best team in the world, Chelsea, and other class ones like Arsenal, Man U, and Wigan. No other European league comes close apart from the Spanish Premier, but that still is not as good. 4 words: Wayne Rooney, Thierry Henry.

W.HI.P 05-12-2006 03:18 PM

you have no argument at the moment as to where basketball is being mastered, your nba leaders all come from europe, so forget about that.

although you do have an argument regarding the premiership now that chelsea has picked up all the greatest youngsters...thiery dosen't say all that much.
shevchenko, vierra, nesta, nedved, cannavaro, buffon, toldo, idrahimovic, seedorf, trezerguet, thuram, veron, adriano, zambrotta, totti, recoba and fiore are all the worlds elite, and all play for teams like juventus ac milan, inter milan, roma fiorentina and lazio, which are some of the elite clubs of the world, and are way ahead of the premiership teams prior to chelseas purchases... you can't say that the premiership is the greatest in the world.
sure chelsea is a superteam, liverpool is seriously one of the greatest in the world, but the other empires are falling ...wenger has destroyed arsenal ...man utd's middle line can compare with sunderlands, and arguably it is worse ....the spurs show a future, but are not so much, so you see, apart from two superpowers in england, there isn't much of anything else...not that interesting if you ask me, unless man.utd do some serious purchasing this year, and arsenal fire wenger ... the campionato will remain a better league in my books.

Elspode 05-12-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SunderlandTillIDie
Soz mate, but football is 'soccer', we (the English) invented the bastard, and every other country which is decent at the game knows it as football. And Elspode, English Premier League (yes, there's no 'e' at the end of premier) football is nout like rugby, how the ---- did you come to that conclusion? Jesus, stick to American games like basketball.
SAFC Are The Greatest

Wow...ya'll really know how to do the PR thing to grow the fan base, doncha?

Griff 05-12-2006 04:56 PM

futbol

Griff 05-12-2006 05:04 PM

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hmm.. my reading says futbol and soccer come before football.

W.HI.P 05-12-2006 05:33 PM

ok, the one thing about that list is that it's based on games the teams have played. now this does not favour european teams as they face each other mostly, all the elite soccer nations are in europe, so this heavily favours soth american teams. my idea of how the world ranking really stands based on the players that combine the teams at the moment are;

1]holland [netherlands] the youngsters say it all
2]italy lacking a striker, but are solid everywhere else
3]argentina still the greatest s.american team
4]france still producing youngsters, out with the old
5]england best they've ever been imo
6]brazil still good, but not great
7]]sweden great form, still elite
8]czech rep. nedved, koller, rocinsky
9]denmark always great form, good team all round
10]usa some serious work has been done the past decade
11]spain will never achive anything with the whole basque thing
12]germany ....after a mediocre decade, they are coming back strong
13]ghana ...best african team without a doubt
14]japan ..representing asia
15]mexico ...always up there
16]portugal ...great players, but terrible team
17]rep.of ireland ..... who can deny them, they're almost unbeatable
18]paraguay ...has conquered s.america the past 4-5 years
19]greece ...not really, but the european cup and all
20]australia ...best australian team ever..seriously..this is not a fluke

lumberjim 05-12-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by storm
Why do americans insist on calling american football "football" ?

what else would we call it?

really. there's no other name for it.


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