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lookout123 07-09-2004 05:59 PM

religion of peace update
 
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"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents," quoth suspected al-Qa'ida terrorist Omar Bakri Muhammad, interviewed in the July issue of Harper's Magazine. "Only between Muslims and nonbelievers. And the life of a non-believer has no value. There's no sanctity in it.... We assume the purpose is to kill as many people as possible, to spread the terror.... Terror is the language of the 21st century. If I want something, I terrorize you to achieve it."

well as long as we are all clear about where we stand in their eyes, i guess it's ok.

elSicomoro 07-09-2004 06:00 PM

Gotta love those fringe types!

lookout123 07-09-2004 06:03 PM

what? a group hug won't solve our problems? alright then, somebody's gotta die - who's it going to be?

marichiko 07-09-2004 06:13 PM

How come somebody always has to die? I know! Let's round up all the members of al-Qa'ida along with George Jr. and subject them all to a rigorous cult-deprogramming. All wash-outs from the school will be sent to Antartica to put radio collars on Emperor penguins under the close scrutiny of armed ornithologists. ;)

lookout123 07-09-2004 06:23 PM

forceful cult deprogramming may result in kidnapping charges. that is no good.
a good shooting can always be handled with a number of defenses such as " i was insane, i swear", "i was just cleaning it and it just went off" or "he attacked me - i had no choice but to shoot him until i had emptied all 3 clips, reloaded, and emptied them again before i slowly drove over him with a steam roller."

and besides, isn't it just good old clean american fun to kill the enemy? :D

xoxoxoBruce 07-10-2004 11:37 AM

More often, we sent them foreign aid and military hardware. :(

jaguar 07-10-2004 11:45 AM

You know, you could change about 5 words in there and it'd fit nicely from a christian fundie. Same probably applies to a hindu fundie as well but I've got less experience with them.

I think but OBL et al in a big cage with the entire administration and put in PPV, the world would not only be safer but damn, it'd make a killing. If you staged the event underground somewhere afterwards you could go round, collect everyone's WMD and let them all off in there. The nukes would neutralize the bio and chem weapons and make the whole site a shrine the peace.

xoxoxoBruce 07-10-2004 07:37 PM

I wish it was that simple, Jag. :thumpsup:

Cyber Wolf 07-12-2004 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
How come somebody always has to die? I know! Let's round up all the members of al-Qa'ida along with George Jr. and subject them all to a rigorous cult-deprogramming. All wash-outs from the school will be sent to Antartica to put radio collars on Emperor penguins under the close scrutiny of armed ornithologists. ;)

I'd vote for this! :thumpsup:

lookout123 07-12-2004 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
You know, you could change about 5 words in there and it'd fit nicely from a christian fundie. Same probably applies to a hindu fundie as well but I've got less experience with them.


??? show me. i've not heard too many christian fundamentalists advocating killing all who don't believe. "civilians and noncivilians, innocents and noninnocents..." nope, haven't anything close to that.

Happy Monkey 07-12-2004 11:37 AM

Well, Islam is a couple of hundred years younger than Christianity.

lookout123 07-12-2004 11:42 AM

those darn wipper-snappers. can't wait til they get a little older and quit trying to kill us all.

seriously though, this isn't about islam. it is about wahabbists.

jaguar 07-12-2004 11:59 AM

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??? show me. i've not heard too many christian fundamentalists advocating killing all who don't believe. "civilians and noncivilians, innocents and noninnocents..." nope, haven't anything close to that.
Well, I've heard 'christians' advocating killing abortion clinic doctors, muslims and gays to name but a few. Somehow I fail to see the difference. They're both goddamn nutjobs, one leads an army of afghan veterans spreading hate across the muslim world, the other is the leader of the 'free world'.

Islamic fundamentalists are no more muslim than fundamentalist christians are christian, both twist scripture to suit their own twisted view and neither are representative of their religions on the whole. You lost any gravity you had as soon as you said 'religion of peace', as to imply they represented Islam on the whole.

lookout123 07-12-2004 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
Well, I've heard 'christians' advocating killing abortion clinic doctors, muslims and gays to name but a few. Somehow I fail to see the difference. They're both goddamn nutjobs, one leads an army of afghan veterans spreading hate across the muslim world, the other is the leader of the 'free world'.

/SNIP/...You lost any gravity you had as soon as you said 'religion of peace', as to imply they represented Islam on the whole.

and you lost any when you lump bush in with those who kill abortion doctors. by doing that you are lumping all christians in with the murderous fools who think blowing up a clinic is a good thing. that is the exact same thing you condemn(and rightly so) from the idiots who think all muslims are standing in line to strap bombs to their children.

and while we are at it, how many "christians" advocate using murder as a tool to win people over? now how many wahabbists, or other radical muslims are killing those they disagree with?
neither one is better than the other, but don't even pretend to compare the two.

Troubleshooter 07-12-2004 12:50 PM

Here is a fundamentalist handout to warm your heart... <PDF warning>

More here.


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