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Catwoman 07-13-2004 11:14 AM

Like father like son?
 
Didn't quite know where to put this, but a friend of mine has doubted all his life that his father is actually his biological father, because he looks nothing like him. He is dark skinned, slim and athletic whereas his father is stock, pale skinned and to use his words 'even has a different nose'.

What are the genetic chances of him being his father? Do father and son always look alike? He's looking for scientific evidence either way not reassurance.

Any ideas?

LabRat 07-13-2004 11:54 AM

looks mean nothing, a DNA parernity test is the only way to tell for certain. ala ricky lake. i dunno where you would go to have this done, or how much $$ it would cost. it would require fresh dna samples however from both interrested parties, usually inner cheek cells. good luck to them.

jinx 07-13-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Catwoman

Any ideas?

Ask his mother? Of course there's always the :gray: possibility...

Beestie 07-13-2004 12:08 PM

Its an odd suspicion to have and there might be other reasons he is not consciously aware of for feeling this way in addition to the physical resemblance issue (things he may have heard or seen when he was young, for example).

Any word on what his mother or grandparents looked like? If any of the remaining five look anything like him, I'd calm down a little. If none do, I'd be googling for local DNA labs.

Tell your buddy to ask the lab if they can use a passive DNA sample (hair, fingernail clipping, etc.). Little tough to explain why he needs an inner cheek sample without giving up the real question.

Clodfobble 07-13-2004 12:21 PM

Perhaps he should consider that this doubt has almost certainly occurred to his father as well, and perhaps his father even knows something that he doesn't. Digging for the truth is one thing, but opening old wounds when it's not necessary is another. He should definitely keep this discreet.

That said, there are billboards in Texas proclaiming the immortal words: "Who's the father?? 1-800-DNA-TEST."

Beestie 07-13-2004 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
That said, there are billboards in Texas proclaiming the immortal words: "Who's the father?? 1-800-DNA-TEST."

Top that, Kansas. http://www.cellar.org/images/newsmilies/sadsperm.gif

Catwoman 07-14-2004 03:14 AM

Hmm. Ok thanks for the advice. DNA test is not really an option, and yes I think there are emotional roots to the question - abandonment issues etc. as he never spent much time with him. Also forgot to mention he was born 4 weeks premature which could affect his body structure?? Looking really for examples of when fathers/sons have looked completely different and the genetic probability. Have googled but not having much success.

Cyber Wolf 07-14-2004 08:06 AM

If I had their pictures, I'd post a pair of cousins of mine and their parents. My first cousin (black) married a white lady. The girl looks like her mother, only with light cocoa skin and the boy, as features like noses and face shape go, only vaguely resembles his father, and even then you have to squint, tilt your head and look in the right light.

Clodfobble 07-14-2004 08:50 AM

Mixing races gets wacky. I had a friend whose mother was white with dark brown hair and father was black, and he came out completely pale-white-skinned, with freckles, and red hair--but the hair was the texture and coarseness of his dad's.

Being born 4 weeks premature wouldn't have much of an effect on his ultimate features, only possibly the healthiness of his organs. At any rate, does he even look like his mother? Perhaps he is adopted entirely and they chose not to tell him.

Pie 07-14-2004 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
Mixing races gets wacky. I had a friend whose mother was white with dark brown hair and father was black, and he came out completely pale-white-skinned, with freckles, and red hair--but the hair was the texture and coarseness of his dad's.

That is a common appearance for black/white mixed-race children. In fact, that is the origin of the phrase "red-headed stepchild" to indicate a not-quite-favorably looked upon family member, who always gets the short end of the stick.

- Pie, who likes red hair...

Catwoman 07-14-2004 09:39 AM

Did you know there is more genetic variation between a red-head and any other caucasion and a black person and a caucasian?

Beestie 07-14-2004 10:08 AM

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Did you know there is more genetic variation between a red-head and any other caucasion and a black person and a caucasian?

I didn't know for sure but I did have my suspicions after seeing THIS man:

http://www.cmfnow.com/images/product...rrot%20top.jpg

LabRat 07-14-2004 10:20 AM

HIJACK

seen him twice, left both times barely able to breathe because my sides ached and cheeks cramped up.

HIJACK

jane_says 07-18-2004 10:30 PM

No help, but just wanted to add that it sounds like you're describing Dale and Joseph Gribble.


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