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jaguar 07-18-2004 03:58 AM

It's not over yet
 
Iraqi women beg to be killed as American soldiers sodomize their children
Not entirely new and if it wasen't Seymour Hersh saying it I'd ignore it but...

There's a few other bits to do with this, there was a quote from rumsfeld quote that confirmed this but it seems to have been pulled.

Undertoad 07-18-2004 07:29 AM

Like other metafilterites I am treating it like a rumor until he publishes it in his magazine.

jaguar 07-18-2004 08:29 AM

Fair enough too. I did some googling around on the referenced Rumsfeld quote, no news sources, plenty of blogs, could've been pulled for inaccuracy or *ahem* other reasons.

xoxoxoBruce 07-18-2004 08:41 AM

Jesus H Motherfuckin' Christ of a stick. :angry:

jane_says 07-18-2004 10:27 PM

Remember when Cheney said that we would see lots of terrible things? Something about the other shoe dropping? I hope this is it. Surely there can't be anything else.

jane_says 07-18-2004 10:27 PM

Shit! Rumsfeld, not Cheney. :smack:

marichiko 07-19-2004 02:12 AM

I hope to God that's a lie. Silence on this one by the powers that be would be pretty damning in and of itself.

slang 07-19-2004 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaguar
.......... I'd ignore it but...


Should I crank up my Jayna Davis, OKC bombing, tinfoil hat rumoUr machine again Jag?

Or maybe some quotes from Newsmax........or are they all the same thing?

jaguar 07-19-2004 03:46 AM

Might want to do some research on that journo, one of the greatest investigate hacks of the 20th century and someone more qualified than most to talk about military abuse of civvies before you dare compare him jingoistic crap like newsmax.

slang 07-19-2004 07:09 AM

( Note: the use of the name newsmax creates the same response in Jag as the name Haliburton creates for Griff.)

Griff 07-19-2004 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slang
( Note: the use of the name newsmax creates the same response in Jag as the name Haliburton creates for Griff.)

Elevated blood pressure, pespiration on upper lip, blurred vision, rifle cleaning, shell countin'... yep pretty much :)

jaguar 07-19-2004 08:15 AM

Well it's like comparing a fine bottle of '64 vintage red to a bucket of rat piss. To put it nicely.

Undertoad 07-19-2004 08:23 AM

When Rumsfeld and members of the Senate committees talked about there being "more" and "worse" photos, the things they hinted about were definitely nothing this strong.

jaguar 07-19-2004 08:27 AM

That's hard to say, this is the MSNBC quote:

"Rumsfeld did not describe the photos, but U.S. military officials told NBC News that the unreleased images showed U.S. soldiers severely beating an Iraqi prisoner nearly to death, having sex with a female Iraqi female prisoner and “acting inappropriately with a dead body.” The officials said there was also a videotape, apparently shot by U.S. personnel, showing Iraqi guards raping young boys."

Which got pulled.
I found this Telegraph story which repeats the same claim, Salon has the same and there are a few other newspapers on there including the Guardian not to mention endless blogs. All talk of a video and there seem to be two seperate original sources, it's looking like it's got some weight to it.

Hell even Fox News has a story.

Catwoman 07-19-2004 10:24 AM

In what context would it be beneficial for someone (esp an American) to make this up?


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