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lookout123 09-02-2004 01:41 PM

They really do make 'em crazy in AZ
 
If you still aren't sure who to vote for, here is another option. This isn't serious politics so i decided to put it here in Home Base. An Arizona dentist wants you to write in your vote on Nov 2.

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garnet 09-02-2004 05:50 PM

Ahhh, more "good" news from WorldNetDaily. Scary shit.

Doesn't Mel Gibson have like 16 kids? I can see his first move in office to try to outlaw both abortion AND birth control. :yelsick:

Clodfobble 09-02-2004 06:32 PM

Dude, wasn't he born in Australia? He can't be President.

Trilby 09-02-2004 06:34 PM

Mel was born in the US--the family emigrated to Aussie-land when Vietnam broke out. Mel's dad was dead set against the draft.

lookout123 09-02-2004 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet
Ahhh, more "good" news from WorldNetDaily. Scary shit.

Doesn't Mel Gibson have like 16 kids? I can see his first move in office to try to outlaw both abortion AND birth control. :yelsick:

rest assured mel isn't going to be president, as he doesn't even want it. but way to jump the gun and condemn him for actions you don't even know if he supports. he is proud of his christian faith.... KILL HIM!!!

garnet 09-02-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
but way to jump the gun and condemn him for actions you don't even know if he supports. he is proud of his christian faith.... KILL HIM!!!

I'm not jumping the gun on anything. From what I understand, Mel Gibson is a strict practicing Catholic. I know for a fact that he is vehemently against abortion, and if he follows the doctrine of the Catholic Church, he would also therefore be against any form of "unnatural" birth control.

If he's "proud of his Christian faith" I hope he will do something "Christian" with the $200 million plus that he made from his "Passion of the Christ" movie....I don't know, like maybe give most of it away to the less fortunate.

Happy Monkey 09-02-2004 09:47 PM

He is not what most would consider Catholic - the sect he and his father belong to consider the mainstream Catholic organization to be heretics.

Trilby 09-02-2004 10:04 PM

i beg to differ. A lot of the mainstream Catholics in my region think Mel is "right On" with his artistic vision--and I live in the heartland, swing-state. There are a boatload of devout Catholics in Ohio. We're not all Baptist!

garnet 09-02-2004 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
He is not what most would consider Catholic - the sect he and his father belong to consider the mainstream Catholic organization to be heretics.

Regardless, they still abide by basically the same tenets as "mainstream" Catholicism, correct? I'm guessing his sect (or whatever you want to call it) isn't pro-choice....

lookout123 09-02-2004 10:47 PM

itis amazing to me that if an individual is a pro-life, anti-abortion type it doesn't matter what else he believes...

wolf 09-02-2004 10:52 PM

I was going to add that I have a great deal of respect for anybody who shows not just strong conviction to, but also practices the tenets of his/her faith.

The Catholic sect that Gibson belongs to celebrates the Mass in Latin. They are Hard Core in Catholic Terms.

garnet 09-02-2004 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
itis amazing to me that if an individual is a pro-life, anti-abortion type it doesn't matter what else he believes...

Did I say it doesn't matter what else he believes?

No, all I said was that if he were to be elected to office that he would probably try to outlaw abortion. Perhaps since you are the expert on his Mel Gibson's personal and political beliefs you can enlighten us all as to what they are. Not that I care that much, but go right ahead and tell us anyway.

garnet 09-02-2004 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
I was going to add that I have a great deal of respect for anybody who shows not just strong conviction to, but also practices the tenets of his/her faith.

I agree. That's great, just as long as those with such religious beliefs who hold public office do not try to force their beliefs down everyone else's throat.

wolf 09-02-2004 11:11 PM

There is a difference between "expressing them" and "forcing them down" people's throats.

Freedom OF, not freedom FROM religion.

lookout123 09-02-2004 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
Freedom OF, not freedom FROM religion.

ding ding ding - wolf gets the award for being one of the few who still realize the difference.


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