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Colonist Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Redondo Beach, CA (transplant from St. Louis, MO)
Posts: 218
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
I can't agree. Look what we got for our money. How many jobs were created? At what cost? Many went to pet projects for the Dem majority. Look at the millions spent and the product we got from them.
http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/
Pelosi, Reid, and Obama rammed programs through without being to explain their costs to the people, and when they did so, they used smoke and mirrors. They controlled congress for 4 years and the spending has gone up astronomically. |
And I can't agree with you. Using your site, and clicking the tab for where the highest stimulus spending occurred, we find this:
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Type Description Amount Jobs
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $4,387,948,882 53,391
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund -Education Fund $2,177,682,329 416
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Reporting $1,653,933,720 18,604
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $1,479,922,294 13,197
Contract Recovery Act Projects at SRNS consist of: Project A $1,407,839,884 800
Contract $1,359,715,229 621
Grant Recovery Act Capital Program- National Railroad Passenger $1,293,525,000 779
Grant Grants to States for the Education of Children with Disabilities $1,226,944,052 4,162
Grant STATE FISCAL STABILIZATION FUND - EDUCATION $1,126,357,559 8,689
Grant Title I - Grants to LEAs, Recovery Act $1,124,920,473 4,389
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Government Services $1,084,768,673 18,229
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $980,685,675 3,400
Grant Title I, Part A--Improving Basic Programs $948,737,780 1,721
Grant Grants to States for the Education of Children with Disabilities $945,636,328 1,734
Grant Title I, Part A -- Improving Basic Programs $907,152,149 6,101
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund-Education Fund $872,587,225 12,454
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Funds- Education Grants $844,735,394 9,658
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $778,494,148 8,917
Grant Grants to States for the Education of Children with Disabilities $759,193,324 3,544
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund-Education Fund $729,184,969 11,378
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund-Government Services $723,165,683 0
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund (SFSF) - Education State Grants $659,190,155 3,306
Grant Grants to States for the Education of Children with Disabilities $627,262,665 3,181
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund-Education Fund $625,982,529 13,232
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Grants $557,352,452 6,977
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $549,364,388 24,242
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Stabilization Fund $544,913,152 3,800
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Funds- Education Grants $536,720,284 0
Loan Innovative Energy Technology $535,000,000 118
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $519,340,474 2,011
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $510,967,172 0
Grant SPECIAL EDUCATION - GRANTS TO STATES $506,479,753 62
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $504,625,464 8,541
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Government Services Fund $491,453,230 1,035
Grant Title I, Part A--Improving Basic Programs $490,575,352 2,054
Grant WIA Youth, Adult, and Dislocated Worker Formula Combined $488,646,876 12,462
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $482,183,579 916
Grant State Stabilization Fund- Education Fund $480,615,789 3,932
Grant Construction of highways, streets, roads, public sidewalks $477,170,897 406
Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund - Education Fund $447,485,056 5,868
Grant Special Education - Grants to States, Recovery Act $437,736,052 2,054
Contract This award provides for the performance of current contracts $437,675,000 496
Grant The New York State -- infrastructure construction projects $432,564,200 59
Grant GRANTS TO STATES FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILI $427,178,222 49
Grant Replacement and upgrade of elevators, boilers, roofs, brickwork $423,284,344 27
Grant TITLE I GRANTS TO LOCAL EDUCATION AGENCIES $420,263,561 1
Grant State Fiscal Stabalization Fund-Education Grants, Recovery Funds $416,658,526 2,673
Grant Grants to States for the Education of Children with Disabilities $400,607,836 698
Grant TITLE I, PART A--IMPROVING BASIC PROGRAMS $400,603,678 482
Grant Weatherization Assistance Program $394,686,513 43
Total Jobs -----> 280,909
Looks like an incredible amount of educational and infrastructure grants to me, not so much "pet projects". And over 280,000 jobs created.
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
They bailed out Goldman, gave out the bonus money to the top execs and then Obama hired a bunch of them into the government. Fannie and Freddy were pushed by the dems and pressure came down for them to make more and more loans.
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I'm none too happy with the number of WS guys in the Obama cabinet, but it wasn't Obama who gave out bonuses, it was the bailed out businesses. And Obama's response was to rescind them.
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
But I would agree that no one party is to blame for the housing mess. They should have taken all that money and just paid off the banks for the bad loans, then re-vamped the whole thing. Obama forced large banks to take bail outs they did not want or need, why? So they could impose greater regulations on them. And then when they tried to pay back the money the administration refused it. Why? because they want control.
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I'd like a cite for this, please.
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
Obama and this administration are not to be trusted any more than people didn't and shouldn't have trusted what went on when Bush was in office.
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Suffice it to say, I don't agree with this contention, either. I don't like everything I see with this Administration, but I don't find them untrustworthy, and I see enormous improvement over the Bush years.
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