Wild West Politics?

Nirvana · 01-08-2011, 01:43 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-s...na/developing/

AZ Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Killed

Trilby · 01-08-2011, 02:58 PM

This is terrible news.

"Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, 40, has been shot at a public event on Saturday in her home state. There are conflicting U.S. media reports about whether the congresswoman and several others who were rushed to the hospital following the shooting spree in Pima County, Arizona, survived. Authorities are reporting the suspected gunman was taken into custody.

FBI agents were rushed to the shooting scene near a Safeway grocery store in northwest Tucson where Democratic Congresswoman Giffords was hosting a public event to speak with her constituents.

Witnesses say a gunman ran up and fired off 15 to 20 shots. They say the young man shot the congresswoman in the head, before trying to run off.

But witnesses say he was tackled by a bystander, and taken into custody.

President Barack Obama released a statement at the White House saying the shooting was a senseless and terrible act of violence that has no place in a free society.

Right before the shooting, the congresswoman for Arizona’s 8th congressional district had used the micro-blogging site Twitter to write that her first so-called “Congress on Your Corner” event was starting. She asked people to let her know what was on their mind.

Giffords was re-elected to her third term in November. Her office was among the politicians whose offices were targeted with vandalism and threats during the health care debate in 2009. "

This saddens me. I don't know what else to say. This country is nuts.

Why doesn't anyone shoot insurance executives?

wolf · 01-08-2011, 03:03 PM

Hope you guys don't mind that I used my moderator secret powers to merge your two threads ... they are in order of posting.

This is a thoroughly fucked up situation. I can't say anything else about it.

Initial reports were that she was dead, as of 1600 hours foxnews.com is saying critical condition and in surgery.

No info is being released about the suspect as yet.

Nirvana · 01-08-2011, 03:06 PM

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Pico and ME · 01-08-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Why doesn't anyone shoot insurance executives?

Because for now there is unemployment benefits, welfare and medicaid. But keep whittling away at those and who knows how the poor unwashed masses will respond.

Nirvana · 01-08-2011, 03:22 PM

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wolf · 01-08-2011, 03:38 PM

Namecalling isn't particularly productive.

Lamplighter · 01-08-2011, 03:52 PM

It's about 4 hrs after the event and the hospital reports are
that Rep. Giffords is out of surgery and is still alive.

Of course the talking heads are putting a political spin on this,
but since it's an "on-going investigation" the LE people
are less than satisfying in what they are willing to say.

So, maybe it's immigration politics, or an premeditated attack on a federal judge,
or maybe it's a simple robbery gone wrong. I don't know.

Whatever the motivations, the political gurus are already making the most of it to their own ends.

Nirvana · 01-08-2011, 03:57 PM

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Trilby · 01-08-2011, 04:00 PM

thanks for the merge, wolf.

Her 75 year old father was asked what, if any, enemies she had and he said, "the entire tea party,"

I wonder how Sarah Palin feels about her line, "Don't retreat, RE-LOAD!" now?

wolf · 01-08-2011, 04:03 PM

Even though she wasn't the Tea Party's Candidate, Ms. Gifford was pro-gun and supported the Arizona immigration laws.

If the attribution on this video is correct, the boy was crazy.

Nirvana · 01-08-2011, 04:03 PM

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Trilby · 01-08-2011, 04:04 PM

more....

A lone gunman, described by witnesses as being a white man in his late teens or early twenties, fired into a crowd gathered for a "Congress in your Corner" event outside a supermarket.

Her father Spencer Giffords, 75, wept when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies.

"Yeah," he told The New York Post. "The whole tea party."

Miss Giffords had been named in March as a political campaign target for conservatives in November’s elections by former Alaska governor Sarah Palin for her strong support for the health reforms of President Barack Obama.

Trilby · 01-08-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

Thanks for changing that Bri I think Elvira would have been offended

yeah, I likes me some Elvira.

Clodfobble · 01-08-2011, 04:15 PM

Giffords may have been targeted by conservatives... but this particular shooter was against "mind control," and had invented a new currency for the US. He was a nutjob.

01-08-2011, 01:43 PM	#1
Nirvana Back in 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,684	Wild West Politics? http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-s...na/developing/ AZ Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Killed __________________ Speaking simply... do not confuse this with having a simple mind.

01-08-2011, 02:58 PM	#2
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Congresswoman shot This is terrible news. "Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, 40, has been shot at a public event on Saturday in her home state. There are conflicting U.S. media reports about whether the congresswoman and several others who were rushed to the hospital following the shooting spree in Pima County, Arizona, survived. Authorities are reporting the suspected gunman was taken into custody. FBI agents were rushed to the shooting scene near a Safeway grocery store in northwest Tucson where Democratic Congresswoman Giffords was hosting a public event to speak with her constituents. Witnesses say a gunman ran up and fired off 15 to 20 shots. They say the young man shot the congresswoman in the head, before trying to run off. But witnesses say he was tackled by a bystander, and taken into custody. President Barack Obama released a statement at the White House saying the shooting was a senseless and terrible act of violence that has no place in a free society. Right before the shooting, the congresswoman for Arizona’s 8th congressional district had used the micro-blogging site Twitter to write that her first so-called “Congress on Your Corner” event was starting. She asked people to let her know what was on their mind. Giffords was re-elected to her third term in November. Her office was among the politicians whose offices were targeted with vandalism and threats during the health care debate in 2009. " This saddens me. I don't know what else to say. This country is nuts. Why doesn't anyone shoot insurance executives? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-08-2011, 03:03 PM	#3
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Hope you guys don't mind that I used my moderator secret powers to merge your two threads ... they are in order of posting. This is a thoroughly fucked up situation. I can't say anything else about it. Initial reports were that she was dead, as of 1600 hours foxnews.com is saying critical condition and in surgery. No info is being released about the suspect as yet. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

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01-08-2011, 03:38 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Namecalling isn't particularly productive. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-08-2011, 03:52 PM	#8
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	It's about 4 hrs after the event and the hospital reports are that Rep. Giffords is out of surgery and is still alive. Of course the talking heads are putting a political spin on this, but since it's an "on-going investigation" the LE people are less than satisfying in what they are willing to say. So, maybe it's immigration politics, or an premeditated attack on a federal judge, or maybe it's a simple robbery gone wrong. I don't know. Whatever the motivations, the political gurus are already making the most of it to their own ends.

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01-08-2011, 04:00 PM	#10
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	thanks for the merge, wolf. Her 75 year old father was asked what, if any, enemies she had and he said, "the entire tea party," I wonder how Sarah Palin feels about her line, "Don't retreat, RE-LOAD!" now? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-08-2011, 04:03 PM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Even though she wasn't the Tea Party's Candidate, Ms. Gifford was pro-gun and supported the Arizona immigration laws. If the attribution on this video is correct, the boy was crazy. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-08-2011, 04:03 PM	#12
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01-08-2011, 04:04 PM	#13
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	more.... A lone gunman, described by witnesses as being a white man in his late teens or early twenties, fired into a crowd gathered for a "Congress in your Corner" event outside a supermarket. Her father Spencer Giffords, 75, wept when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies. "Yeah," he told The New York Post. "The whole tea party." Miss Giffords had been named in March as a political campaign target for conservatives in November’s elections by former Alaska governor Sarah Palin for her strong support for the health reforms of President Barack Obama. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-08-2011, 04:15 PM	#15
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Giffords may have been targeted by conservatives... but this particular shooter was against "mind control," and had invented a new currency for the US. He was a nutjob. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

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