I am Cellar

monster · 01-26-2015, 11:25 PM

I wish my IRL friends could get a little Cellar every now and then. I think you all know what I'm talking about. Especially those on Facebook. That place just needs a good thread drift sometimes. And a tailposting moratorium. And well shit, it needs a little Cellar.

regular.joe · 01-27-2015, 12:29 AM

The Cellar might be too smart, savvy and jaded for just anyone.

fargon · 01-27-2015, 10:46 AM

I have been trying to get my friends to come here for years, they just smile and say no. Like they might have to learn a new secret handshake.

BigV · 01-27-2015, 10:50 AM

the cellar has balance.

the cellar has all the crap we have IRL, more or less, but FB, ugh. Just no. Even FB admits to moderating that shit to death. Picture this: I like a woman's shape, curves, etc. That's the cellar. FB takes that shape and observes that slender waists generate 1.5x more eyeball time than less slender waists (because it monitors and measures that shit nine ways from sunday). It then (throws balance out the fucking window) proceeds to tightlace your feed, corseting your FB experience because if some is good, more is better. The result is a deformed presentation of what started out as/comes from just regular people.

There is no such tightlacing here on the cellar. what we have is just people, granted, articulate thoughtful people who share the good and bad and mundane, but those people, we people ARE out there IRL.

an interesting thought is what is it that the cellar has that is missing IRL? ... immediacy? odors? ... I don't know. I do know that it takes time to compose my response here in the cellar. I can (much more easily) speak without thinking IRL

monster · 01-27-2015, 10:55 AM

I was also just amused by the "I am" meme

xoxoxoBruce · 01-27-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV

I do know that it takes time to compose my response here in the cellar. I can (much more easily) speak without thinking IRL

Agreed. Being at best a two finger typist, I have to "preview" posts for misspellings, continuity, or words/phrases left out entirely. I often edit, change wording I think might be misleading, add thoughts, and reduce verbiage. This also provides a minute or two for second thoughts... should I or should I not?

Aside; dozens of times I'd come back to the Cellar to find I'd polished a preview and moved along without submitting it.

classicman · 01-27-2015, 11:34 AM

FB for the most part is like HS. Getting into the right groups is where the more serious discussions happen - especially in the secret (member invite only) and private groups.

Clodfobble · 01-27-2015, 02:44 PM

I think a huge part of it is just organization. Facebook is like if you took all the posts on the Cellar and just printed them on the screen in chronological posting order. Too much chaos. You're in the middle of the maelstrom, instead of on the outside picking and choosing which subjects to poke your head into and which to leave alone.

monster · 01-27-2015, 03:00 PM

but if it were a perfect world it'd be so dull.....

Today I am Pilchard.

lumberjim · 01-27-2015, 03:07 PM

I am Lumber

Undertoad · 01-27-2015, 03:51 PM

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if you took all the posts on the Cellar and just printed them on the screen in chronological posting order.

That would be okay! But what FB does is to take all the posts, decide which ones are becoming important, decide which people you're closest to, and show *some* of them to you, on a basis and in an order they decide you will like.

Of course everybody doesn't want to see everything everybody posts, right? You said you were friends but most of your friends aren't friends... FB knows that...

So! Didn't see that important post from your friend? They may not have LIKEd YOUR posts enough, or their friends may not have LIKEd that post very much. Seeing every single crappy post from that one friend? Aw, FB has decided, through its own special secret sauce, that you're actually close and want to see each others' shit! Did your friend announce that thing that was important to you? Well too bad they did it at 1am and it got buried!

lumberjim · 01-27-2015, 04:02 PM

and good luck finding something you remember discussing before yesterday

classicman · 01-27-2015, 05:08 PM

Great points UT & Jim. Those problems are solved here in teh cellar.

Griff · 01-27-2015, 08:32 PM

I don't like that I usually ignore what from my perspective is stupid shit on facebook. I know that, unlike the cellar, facebook is not where you have a vigorous debate about something. If you've been on the cellar a while you've had sacred cows gored and maybe gored a few, but your presence here suggests you're willing to take some heat for beliefs. After the blood letting people can be damn humane here as well.

glatt · 01-27-2015, 08:56 PM

FB has its purposes, but being real and honest isn't really part of it. It's all superficial and sharing pictures with people you know.

01-26-2015, 11:25 PM	#1
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	I am Cellar I wish my IRL friends could get a little Cellar every now and then. I think you all know what I'm talking about. Especially those on Facebook. That place just needs a good thread drift sometimes. And a tailposting moratorium. And well shit, it needs a little Cellar. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-27-2015, 12:29 AM	#2
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	The Cellar might be too smart, savvy and jaded for just anyone. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

01-27-2015, 10:46 AM	#3
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	I have been trying to get my friends to come here for years, they just smile and say no. Like they might have to learn a new secret handshake. __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

01-27-2015, 10:50 AM	#4
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	the cellar has balance. the cellar has all the crap we have IRL, more or less, but FB, ugh. Just no. Even FB admits to moderating that shit to death. Picture this: I like a woman's shape, curves, etc. That's the cellar. FB takes that shape and observes that slender waists generate 1.5x more eyeball time than less slender waists (because it monitors and measures that shit nine ways from sunday). It then (throws balance out the fucking window) proceeds to tightlace your feed, corseting your FB experience because if some is good, more is better. The result is a deformed presentation of what started out as/comes from just regular people. There is no such tightlacing here on the cellar. what we have is just people, granted, articulate thoughtful people who share the good and bad and mundane, but those people, we people ARE out there IRL. an interesting thought is what is it that the cellar has that is missing IRL? ... immediacy? odors? ... I don't know. I do know that it takes time to compose my response here in the cellar. I can (much more easily) speak without thinking IRL __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

01-27-2015, 10:55 AM	#5
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	I was also just amused by the "I am" meme __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-27-2015, 11:34 AM	#7
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	FB for the most part is like HS. Getting into the right groups is where the more serious discussions happen - especially in the secret (member invite only) and private groups. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-27-2015, 02:44 PM	#8
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I think a huge part of it is just organization. Facebook is like if you took all the posts on the Cellar and just printed them on the screen in chronological posting order. Too much chaos. You're in the middle of the maelstrom, instead of on the outside picking and choosing which subjects to poke your head into and which to leave alone. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

01-27-2015, 03:00 PM	#9
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	but if it were a perfect world it'd be so dull..... Today I am Pilchard. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-27-2015, 03:07 PM	#10
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I am Lumber __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-27-2015, 04:02 PM	#12
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	and good luck finding something you remember discussing before yesterday __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-27-2015, 05:08 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Great points UT & Jim. Those problems are solved here in teh cellar. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-27-2015, 08:32 PM	#14
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I don't like that I usually ignore what from my perspective is stupid shit on facebook. I know that, unlike the cellar, facebook is not where you have a vigorous debate about something. If you've been on the cellar a while you've had sacred cows gored and maybe gored a few, but your presence here suggests you're willing to take some heat for beliefs. After the blood letting people can be damn humane here as well. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-27-2015, 08:56 PM	#15
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	FB has its purposes, but being real and honest isn't really part of it. It's all superficial and sharing pictures with people you know.

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