Game Changer

[richlevy]

So, just caught a bit of the Sarah Palin biopic. I intend to watch it fully tomorrow. This thread could go into Entertainment, but since it's mostly going to be a discussion of Palin's candidacy, I thought I'd put it here.

Certainly the Dems have floated lightweight VP candidates in the past, so there was no reason for the Republicans not to bow to expediency, but was Palin different?

[ZenGum]

was Palin different?

What, you mean she's Jewish?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Certainly the Dems have floated lightweight VP candidates in the past, so there was no reason for the Republicans not to bow to expediency, but was Palin different?

I'd have to think about it, but to me Palin is more dangerous than lightweight. We may get another dangerous lightweight in Santorum. If I was Mitt, I'd avoid that guy due to the armed-crackpot Santorum supporter angle.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by richlevy

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Certainly the Dems have floated lightweight VP candidates in the past,
so there was no reason for the Republicans not to bow to expediency,
but was Palin different?

That's not true about Democratic VP candidates... Dan Quail only misspelled one word.






Oh wait. Nevermind

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

That's not true about Democratic VP candidates... Dan Quail only misspelled one word.

Mr. Quayle is doing very well for himself. What's funny is that he ran against GWB in the Republican presidential primaries and criticized him for his 'lack of experience'.

He's endorsing Romney this time around.

As far as Democratic VP's went, Edwards appeared smarter than Quayle, at least when he was thinking with his 'big head'.

[Lamplighter]

Back to OP

My wife and I are still arguing about Sarah Palin. My wife just despises her. I don't.

I see Palin as a perfect example of the US Miss America Beauty contests.
A woman who is good looking and learns how to please others when in public,
and say exactly what is needed in order to be likable at the moment.
Palin quickly learned she could do that very well with the far right.
But beyond that, there's no there there.

Sort of the opposite of Mitt Romney, who can't ever seem to say the right thing in public.
But maybe, there's no there there, either.

Back to Palin, I see her nomination as the epitomy of McCain's personality.
As I remember it, McCain was essentially told by the Republican hierarchy
that he could not select either of the two Senators he wanted (Liberman or Graham),
and, in something of a fit of pique to have his own way, he announced Palin,
without ever having even met her beyond that one-day visit in Arizona.
I imagine one of his thoughts the next day was "O God, what have I done"

Palin then went on to upstage McCain at public rallies... until she imploded.


ETA: I just read somewhere that McCain wanted others for VP,
than Lieberman and Graham. Sorry if my memory is faulty.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Back to OP
ETA: I just read somewhere that McCain wanted others for VP,
than Lieberman and Graham. Sorry if my memory is faulty.

From his interview on 3/11/12
Former Republican presidential nominee John McCain is still adamant that
no one was more qualified than Sarah Palin to be vice president in 2008.

Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday asked the Arizona senator to respond to
HBO’s movie “Game Change,” which implies that he only selected Palin because she was a woman.

“I thought she was the best qualified person,” McCain insisted. “I thought she had the ability to excite our party,
and the kind of person that I wanted to see succeed in the political arena. She was a very effective and successful governor.
Again, I look forward and not back.”

Link

[infinite monkey]

I think Sarah Palin was a willing participant in a campaign to make women in politics look unstable and stupid. Too many women were going too far, shaking up the status quo. Hillary scared the hell out of them, so let's just remind everyone how cocoa puffs women are.

She's a big giant shame.

Yes, I have tinfoil hat on. That is my own personal conspiracy theory.

[Pico and ME]

Take off that hat, IM. The numbers actually prove your theory out. The United States ranks 74th for number of women in government.

[Undertoad]

A woman who is good looking and learns how to please others when in public, and say exactly what is needed in order to be likable at the moment.

Exactly the same description of any politically successful man, except the woman part.

I'm with IM here, except that it has been ultimately a money play for her. And a deal we would all make, with the big needy family in tow. You have the choice: continue being Governor for $125K a year; or make $12M in 2 years being adored by big crowds on the book tours and getting big TV deals for you and your kids. Either way you get the shit beaten out of you by all major media... pick one.

[ZenGum]

This is what has become of the beacon of hope, the shining light on the hill...

[shakes head sadly]

[Lamplighter]

Exactly the same description of any politically successful man, except the woman part.

and the part about being good looking,
and the part about there being no there, there.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

This is what has become of the beacon of hope, the shining light on the hill...

[shakes head sadly]

Dude, that light, its a freight train.

[ZenGum]

No, no, that's the light at the end of the tunnel.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

and the part about being good looking,
and the part about there being no there, there.

If you don't think that applies to the men, we have a different view of politics.