Iran; in general

TheMercenary · 03-31-2007, 08:53 AM

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elSicomoro · 03-31-2007, 10:23 AM

Regime change doesn't seem to have gone so well overall in Iran's next door neighbor.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

Regime change doesn't seem to have gone so well overall in Iran's next door neighbor.

Well at least not from an external position. What do you think would have happened if Clinton was successful and they followed through with a coup from the inside? They were so close, but of course backed out at the last minute and everyone involved was executed. I would suggest they take a lesson from Iraq that the overt military option is not working. Who knows?

elSicomoro · 03-31-2007, 10:35 AM

Quite frankly, I don't think any of us should know whether our country is advocating regime change, publicly or privately. I don't like the government keeping secrets, but the fact that this subject has gotten a lot of public attention in recent years has not been good for us.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

Quite frankly, I don't think any of us should know whether our country is advocating regime change, publicly or privately. I don't like the government keeping secrets, but the fact that this subject has gotten a lot of public attention in recent years has not been good for us.

Try to tell that to the proponents of "Open Government".

elSicomoro · 03-31-2007, 10:42 AM

As hypocritical as this sounds, "regime change" is one of those things where I wouldn't mind keeping things quiet...so long as our goverment are truly working for the betterment of the citizens of this country. Wishful thinking, I know...but I still have hope...

Griff · 03-31-2007, 10:47 AM

I say let the locals work on regime change and we sit back and reap the fruits of small open ineffectual government. Unfortunately, that will require a new political party and we know how well that'll work, since the game is rigged for the two pro-leviathan parties.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

As hypocritical as this sounds, "regime change" is one of those things where I wouldn't mind keeping things quiet...so long as our goverment are truly working for the betterment of the citizens of this country. Wishful thinking, I know...but I still have hope...

Oh, don't think they haven't/aren't trying it. But once you introduce "staffers" on The Hill to the information don't expect it to stay secret for to long. We need a version of the Secrets Act like they have in the UK. Until they truely start to punish people for leaks no one is going to really give a fuck. Take the Libby/Rove/Plame Affair, it wasn't till later that Richard Armitage came out and told everybody that he was the one that released the info. Well hell than your ass should go straight to frigging jail. But was he ever charged. Fuck no. Do not pass Go.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

I say let the locals work on regime change and we sit back and reap the fruits of small open ineffectual government. Unfortunately, that will require a new political party and we know how well that'll work, since the game is rigged for the two pro-leviathan parties.

Where is Perot when you need him? Oh yea, he quit. Quitter.

elSicomoro · 03-31-2007, 10:52 AM

Hey Griff, Ron Paul was on Bill Maher's show last night. Great interview. I totally respect that guy because he believes what he believes, but doesn't try to cram it down your throat.

Michael Smerconish was on too...I miss listening to him in the morning in Philadelphia.

03-31-2007, 06:40 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yVewc6bi5o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2EKxBn4ABE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGZN7aePMuk

03-31-2007, 07:14 PM

Gen. William Odom on Iran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imj8YFMfZvI

piercehawkeye45 · 04-01-2007, 12:47 AM

Last time we had a "regime change" in Iran it led to all the problems that we have today.

elSicomoro · 04-01-2007, 01:00 AM

And of course, there's no guarantee that we'll get the government of our liking.

Beestie · 04-01-2007, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Try to tell that to the proponents of "Open Government".

So the government of the United States should treat the people that elected them in the exact same way they deal with regimes openly hostile to it?

At some point, you are going to realize that we are not nuts.

03-31-2007, 08:53 AM	#1
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Iran; in general http://commentary.threatswatch.org/2...ruth-backseat/ __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

03-31-2007, 10:47 AM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I say let the locals work on regime change and we sit back and reap the fruits of small open ineffectual government. Unfortunately, that will require a new political party and we know how well that'll work, since the game is rigged for the two pro-leviathan parties. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-31-2007, 06:40 PM	#11
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yVewc6bi5o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2EKxBn4ABE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGZN7aePMuk Last edited by rkzenrage; 03-31-2007 at 06:49 PM.

03-31-2007, 10:23 AM	#2
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Regime change doesn't seem to have gone so well overall in Iran's next door neighbor.

03-31-2007, 10:35 AM	#4
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Quite frankly, I don't think any of us should know whether our country is advocating regime change, publicly or privately. I don't like the government keeping secrets, but the fact that this subject has gotten a lot of public attention in recent years has not been good for us.

03-31-2007, 10:42 AM	#6
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	As hypocritical as this sounds, "regime change" is one of those things where I wouldn't mind keeping things quiet...so long as our goverment are truly working for the betterment of the citizens of this country. Wishful thinking, I know...but I still have hope...

03-31-2007, 10:52 AM	#10
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Hey Griff, Ron Paul was on Bill Maher's show last night. Great interview. I totally respect that guy because he believes what he believes, but doesn't try to cram it down your throat. Michael Smerconish was on too...I miss listening to him in the morning in Philadelphia.

03-31-2007, 07:14 PM	#12
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Gen. William Odom on Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imj8YFMfZvI

04-01-2007, 12:47 AM	#13
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Last time we had a "regime change" in Iran it led to all the problems that we have today.

04-01-2007, 01:00 AM	#14
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	And of course, there's no guarantee that we'll get the government of our liking.

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