"Money". Is it Worth it?

JBKlyde · 01-11-2011, 05:11 PM

Despite the recklessness of my own self destruction, I don't see money as the driving force behind my motives. Yes it would be nice to have money, but at what point is the line drawn and self seeking millionaires declared hell bound???????

limey · 01-11-2011, 05:17 PM

Now that is a question indeed ....

HungLikeJesus · 01-11-2011, 05:23 PM

That all depends on the exchange rate.

sexobon · 01-11-2011, 06:32 PM

Money is just a medium of exchange, though during hard times it's medium rare.

skysidhe · 01-11-2011, 09:29 PM

You can do more with it than without it. For myself, pretending there is some higher purpose and some spiritual lesson to learn is better left to the Gandhi's of the world.

GunMaster357 · 01-12-2011, 05:00 AM

Money doesn't make happiness...

...but it makes sadness bearable.

Just ask any heir to a fortune.

Happy Monkey · 01-12-2011, 11:17 AM

Just like anything else, the more you need it, the more it is worth.

Lamplighter · 01-12-2011, 12:37 PM

There's a level of $ that is needed to provide what you believe are the necessities of life.
After that, it becomes wants, and then luxuries, then power,
and then greed, and finally more is never enough.

glatt · 01-12-2011, 12:57 PM

I think greed is out of order. Anything after the necessities is greed. If you want it, but don't need it, it's greed. We all have greed.

TheMercenary · 01-13-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

After that, it becomes wants, and then luxuries, then power, and then greed, and finally more is never enough.

Who gets to define when each of those thresholds is met? and at what amounts?

Lamplighter · 01-13-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

There's a level of $ that is needed to provide what you believe are the necessities of life.
After that, it becomes wants, and then luxuries, then power,
and then greed, and finally more is never enough.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Who gets to define when each of those thresholds is met? and at what amounts?

Ibid

Perry Winkle · 01-13-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Who gets to define when each of those thresholds is met? and at what amounts?

The government.

Luxury, sales and estate taxes are a few. Another is income.

There are several tax brackets below $250k. Those people are at different levels of "not top earners." Everyone above that is a "top earner." But there is a huge difference between the couple of doctors that is bringing home $250k per year and the people bringing home $1M (and $10M, and $100M, etc).

Making $250k per year where I live (Helena, MT) is an incredible living, in Manhattan it is still a damn good living. On the other hand, while $50k per year in Helena is a good living it's much harder to live on in Manhattan, and the quality of life is much lower.

I really think Federal and State income tax rates should vary by where you live as well as by income.

HungLikeJesus · 01-13-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

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I really think Federal and State income tax rates should vary by where you live as well as by income.

Well, I think state income tax rates do vary by where you live.

TheMercenary · 01-13-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

The government.

Luxury, sales and estate taxes are a few. Another is income.

There are several tax brackets below $250k. Those people are at different levels of "not top earners." Everyone above that is a "top earner." But there is a huge difference between the couple of doctors that is bringing home $250k per year and the people bringing home $1M (and $10M, and $100M, etc).

Which is why your and the governments $250k number fails.

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Making $250k per year where I live (Helena, MT) is an incredible living, in Manhattan it is still a damn good living.

Is that a joke? $250 might get you a 900 sq ft apt

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On the other hand, while $50k per year in Helena is a good living it's much harder to live on in Manhattan, and the quality of life is much lower.

Depends on your definition of "quality of life".

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I really think Federal and State income tax rates should vary by where you live as well as by income.

BS. Everybody should pay a percentage of their income. If you 10k a year and if you make 500k a year, you should pay a percent.

Flint · 01-12-2011, 02:03 PM

There is a line that can be drawn and a line that can be seen, but a line that can be drawn isn't always a line that can be seen, and a line that can be seen isn't always a line that should have been drawn. Also, sometimes lines are different lengths, widths, etc.

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JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	"Money". Is it Worth it? Despite the recklessness of my own self destruction, I don't see money as the driving force behind my motives. Yes it would be nice to have money, but at what point is the line drawn and self seeking millionaires declared hell bound???????

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GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	Money doesn't make happiness... ...but it makes sadness bearable. Just ask any heir to a fortune. __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

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Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Just like anything else, the more you need it, the more it is worth. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Money is just a medium of exchange, though during hard times it's medium rare.

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skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	You can do more with it than without it. For myself, pretending there is some higher purpose and some spiritual lesson to learn is better left to the Gandhi's of the world.

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Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	There's a level of $ that is needed to provide what you believe are the necessities of life. After that, it becomes wants, and then luxuries, then power, and then greed, and finally more is never enough.

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glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I think greed is out of order. Anything after the necessities is greed. If you want it, but don't need it, it's greed. We all have greed.

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