The Science of Gaydar

[xoxoxoBruce]

An interesting article on the physical differences, that appear to be often indicative, between queers and straights.

Gay men are more likely than straight men to have a counterclockwise whorl.

Gay men and straight women have an increased density of fingerprint ridges on the thumb and pinkie of the left hand.

The index fingers of most straight men are shorter than their ring fingers, and for most women they are the same length or longer. Gay men and lesbians tend to have reversed ratios.

Gay men and lesbians have a 50 percent greater chance of being left-handed or ambidextrous than their straight counterparts.

It’s bizarre to think some value systems might lump gayness in with—say—sickle-cell anemia or Down syndrome. As Matt Foreman from the Task Force put it, “It’s not playing with the number of toes you have; it’s really manipulating your very essence. So many people see gay people only in terms of sexual behavior, as opposed to what sexual orientation is really about, which is how you fit into the world. I don’t want to get mushy, but it’s about your soul.”

[Aliantha]

OK, I'm left handed, and my index finger is definitely shorter than my ring finger. ON BOTH HANDS!!!

OMG, I must be gay!

[piercehawkeye45]

Interesting, a tiny bit more evidence that homosexuality has genetic influences.

[Elspode]

Nonsense. Everyone knows that homosexuality is a choice. Granted, its a choice made at the genetic level, but still a choice.

[piercehawkeye45]

A choice by god?

[Shawnee123]

Let me ask you this: if I decided to be gay (because i am SO sick of men and their little games) do you think I would even get hit on since I'm not really gay? Would my little act show through? Would they notice my right-handedness, or would they bother to measure and see that my index finger is indeed shorter than my ring finger?

Ahh, never mind. It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that "schwing!"

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Interesting, a tiny bit more evidence that homosexuality has genetic influences.

i think you have that backwards...unless you meant that being gay has influence on genetics....which i would think is obvious since 100% gay people can't procreate....

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

A choice by god?

there is no god

Originally Posted by Cicero

Uh oh. Well now that we found out about me........

did you just out yourself?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

i think you have that backwards...unless you meant that being gay has influence on genetics....which i would think is obvious since 100% gay people can't procreate....

A gene can get passed down even when initiated, will not produce offspring. Pure altruism is an example of this, some birds will not produce children and only help raise their family's offspring and that trait is still there. A genetic "gay" gene will not be a simple Mendel dominant-recessive equation but could include a very complex dominant-recessive equation, a trait that is determined by the environment of the fetus, a mutation (kind of like down syndrome, unlikely), a combination of the above, or something I haven't thought of.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

did you just out yourself?

Looks like it-according to that- I have a pair of lesbian hands?

Not that I wouldn't ponder having sex with a woman (I think women are hot) It doesn't gross me out at all...I'm just entirely sexually devoted to my husband. And that's forever. If I could be a lesbian and a dedicated wife in love with my husband, and only have real sexual inclinations towards my husband. Then I would be a lesbian. But I don't think thinking that women are hot qualifies. Yes, very aesthetically pleasing. But I am only in love with my cutie pie at home.
Someone told me once that your sexuality is really based on which sex you are emotionally attracted to the most. Which sex strikes an emotional chord the most? Well men really seem to get me going emotionally, and physically. So do women, but in very minute degrees sexually and emotionally.

Except for my mom....she pisses me off sometimes in a way that isn't even human.

Oh and there's only a problem with Jinx doing that LJ if she's in a Goodwill. Uuuugh.

[BrianR]

Originally Posted by Cicero

Looks like it-according to that- I have a pair of lesbian hands?

Not that I wouldn't ponder having sex with a woman (I think women are hot) It doesn't gross me out at all...I'm just entirely sexually devoted to my husband. And that's forever. If I could be a lesbian and a dedicated wife in love with my husband, and only have real sexual inclinations towards my husband. Then I would be a lesbian. But I don't think thinking that women are hot qualifies. Yes, very aesthetically pleasing. But I am only in love with my cutie pie at home.

If you ask your husband and he agrees, it isn't infidelity. Especially if you let him watch.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by BrianR

If you ask your husband and he agrees, it isn't infidelity. Especially if you let him watch.

I don't wanna.....In our relationship (we have discussed these things) that is cheating no matter what. He knows that if I start screwing someone else I don't need him around.(woman or not) And vice-versa.
All relationships are different cans of worms. That would only piss him off. For good reason. And again....I don't want to. Thanks for trying to help me and especially my husband out there Brian......but he really doesn't think that's hot. He would be right in thinking that that is his heart getting completely ripped out of his chest and pounded on with a tiny but effective hammer.

[Hime]

Originally Posted by BrianR

If you ask your husband and he agrees, it isn't infidelity. Especially if you let him watch.

Yeah, that describes us, except for the watching part. I was wondering why the article in the OP doesn't mention us bisexuals. No love.

[Cicero]

Uh oh. Well now that we found out about me........

It doesn't seem fair that lesbians index fingers are smaller though.

That sucks.

[lumberjim]

what?

[piercehawkeye45]

Genetics don't just work with the stereotypical Mendel dominant-recessive gene combination (AA, Aa, aa).

Pure altruism is probably a very complex dominant-recessive combination that is so ingrained in that bird's population that it will not go away even when the altruistic gene is initiated, that individual will not produce offspring.

There are lizards that when the fetus is still growing in the egg, the sex is determined by the temperature of the egg. If the egg temperature is above a certain threshold, it will become female, below, a male. That means that a trait can pop up at any time no matter if that trait will cause the individual to produce children or not.

Down Syndrome is when the 23rd allele (I think that is what it is) is copied twice so they have one extra allele than normal. Most people with Down Syndrome do not procreate and the gene still shows up.

If homosexuality is genetic or influenced by genetics, then it would most likely be under one of those three categories or something that I haven't thought of, not a simple Mendel equation.