Where am I politically?

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by Radar

If you are against abortion, you should not get one and don't exercise force to prevent others from getting them if they choose. Allow them to be judged by god. The same is true of prostitution, gay marriage, collecting stem cells, drug use, polygamy, etc.

These activities don't physically harm or endanger anyone other than potentially harming those taking part willingly in them. This means it's unreasonable to create a law against those things.

The unborn child is murdered - I think thats "harming someone"?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by yesman065

Ibram, you constantly amaze me with many of your comments and I am surprised at your maturity for someone who is 15. However, that has to be the most immature, skewed, and innaccurate post you've written.

I agree with Ibram. Yesman065 is a poopy head.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Ibram

If you feel more strongly towards everyone following your verson of morality, go republican.

Originally Posted by yesman065

...that has to be the most immature, skewed, and innaccurate post you've written.

First, on what grounds is it inaccurate? Republicans have felt the backlash of their heavy-handed attempt to legislate morality, it hit them hard. So the statement stands as an accurate description of reality if you equate "going republican" with "supporting the observable actions of republicans, and endorsing more of the same." Next, as it is demonstrated to be accurate, on what grounds is it immature? How is it immature to make an observation of this type? Is it immature because you disagree with it? Please elaborate.

[Spexxvet]

He won't 'cause he's a poopy head.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by yesman065

The unborn child is murdered - I think thats "harming someone"?

No one thinks that they are killing anyone. It's just opinion on when the fetus actually becomes life.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

No one thinks that they are killing anyone. It's just opinion on when the fetus actually becomes life.

I think the important question is when life (under some minimal definition) becomes life worth protecting.

Now we can examine the assumption that life is somehow sacred!

Is it?

I think it's a good idea to treat it that way. But who can know if it's true? Nobody I know.

(Here I go again, breaking my personal rule about posting in the Politics/Current Events/Philosophy forums.)

[Toymented]

Originally Posted by grant

I think the important question is when life (under some minimal definition) becomes life worth protecting.

Now we can examine the assumption that life is somehow sacred!

Is it?

I think it's a good idea to treat it that way. But who can know if it's true? Nobody I know.

(Here I go again, breaking my personal rule about posting in the Politics/Current Events/Philosophy forums.)

It's a good indication that life is worth protecting and the particular life is sacred when the mother elects to advance the organism. Beyond that, why should anyone feel motivated to nurture that which is not desired by its own mother?

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by Toymented

It's a good indication that life is worth protecting and the particular life is sacred when the mother elects to advance the organism. Beyond that, why should anyone feel motivated to nurture that which is not desired by its own mother?

I came in late. I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

My previous comment was based solely on what ph45 said in what I quoted. Sorry if I'm more out of it than I thought.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by grant

(Here I go again, breaking my personal rule about posting in the Politics/Current Events/Philosophy forums.)

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by Flint

First, on what grounds is it inaccurate? Republicans have felt the backlash of their heavy-handed attempt to legislate morality, it hit them hard. So the statement stands as an accurate description of reality if you equate "going republican" with "supporting the observable actions of republicans, and endorsing more of the same." Next, as it is demonstrated to be accurate, on what grounds is it immature? How is it immature to make an observation of this type? Is it immature because you disagree with it? Please elaborate.

It is not accurate to say that republican = "everyone following your version of morality." It is an immature view based on the reality that it not tru. A more mature individual would understand, perhaps not agree with, but still understand there is a whole lot more than that one issue which constitutes a republican. Its like saying anything that flies is a bird therefore insects are birds. Its equally as ridiculous.

[piercehawkeye45]

Yesman is right but I'm almost positive Ibram said that as a joke.

Both Republicans and Democrats push their agenda on others, it just depends on what side you face that determines which side will be pushing you. Though, as unbias as possible, I have to say the Republicans are a bit more pushy than the Democrats right now.

But to tell you the truth, the guy who is seeing through all the DC bullshit politics right now is a Republican, presenting Chuck Hagel.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by yesman065

A more mature individual would understand, perhaps not agree with, but still understand there is a whole lot more than that one issue which constitutes a republican.

Not in a hard-line party system there isn't. You run with the pack or you get left in the dust. You can "feel" like there is more to it, but what actually counts is: what they do with your vote when they get in power.

[Toymented]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Godless blew me away. I still don't know what I am politically but it fueled the fire. I'm currently reading The Enemy at Home (Dinesh D'Souza) and I have ALOT of the indroduction highlighted already.

Is there a party out there that encompases these ideas or do I just lump myself in with the party the most closely matches my beliefs? Would that be Libertarian or Republican? Some other party I haven't heard of?

You may as well vote Republican. Appease the hubby anyway. You really sound like you're more spiritually attuned. Work on the spirituality and ditch the politics. You'll find it more satisfying.

[Aliantha]

The good thing about living where you do is that you don't have to get involved in the political process if you don't want to. Lucky you!

[Ibby]

It wasn't exactly a joke, but a usually-accurate dig at republicans. That's simply the way the party works. Gay marriage bans, abortion bans, flag-burning bans... everything set on legislating morality is a republican push. There may be more to it than that, but socially speaking, the republicans are solely interested in legislating their own versions of morality.