Kill the Messenger - this time the LA Times

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Hell, tw hates, it appears, any boss who ever went to boss college and passed boss lessons and graduated. You end up wondering just why.

Hell no. This was bait so that the dumbest person I ever knew would post - UG. UG - fist fights never occured even in any bar I drank in. But the minute you walked in, everyone would want to hit you. You are that dumb. You are so stupid that even Forest Gump would want to hit you.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Chrysler got loan guarantees.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Chrysler got loan guarantees.

Only after Chrysler 1) fixed the problem - replaced bean counters Townsend and Richardo with Iacocca, 2) still had to obtain loans from private sources, and 3) still had to pay the same high interest rates. In fact, Chrysler almost failed when Deutsche Bank backed out at the last minute. Chrysler had to earn their loans by first fixing the reason for Chrysler’s near demise – bad management resulting in bad products.

GM does not want to fix their problem and wants the government to loan the money at much lower interest rates. IOW an anti-America company (paraphrasing classicman) now wants us to pay - corporate welfare - so GM can continue making the same mistakes. At what point does a GM stock holder suffer risks because stockholders remained in denial? At what point does a bankruptcy threat become so great that stock holders finally demand intelligent management?

So many tried to save GM including Ross Perot and Carl Icahn. GM stockholders refused to admit the obvious. Therefore GM stockholders should be rewarded as the partners of Bear Stearns were also rewarded. Bankruptcy is necessary to remove GM's only problem - Rick Wagoner and his staff. Instead, GM wants free money to keep making bad products.

Only two months ago, GM said they had plenty of cash. Suddenly GM need tens of $billions? Oh. Lying on the spread sheets is also acceptable? Well, when AT&T was finally exposed as lying, then AT&T had to disintegrate - be consumed by companies with responsible management. Just another example of free market bankruptcies solving the problem - bad management.

Gerald Ford to New York City: Drop dead. Without free Federal money, then NYC decided to solve their bankruptcy problems. As a result, NYC did become fiscally responsible again.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

Hell no. This was bait so that the dumbest person I ever knew would post.

I call BS. Why you were just calling for his banning not too long ago.
Now you want him to post -

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

I call BS. Why you were just calling for his banning not too long ago.

When it comes to the same old bullshit time and time again, why does classicman always attack tw and never attack Urbane Guerrilla? classicman loves UG's extremist politics - not concepts based in reality?

UG routinely posts personal attacks and political rhetoric from the George Jr administration as broadcast by Rush Limbaugh. Apparently classicman approves. There is no significant inflation. George said so. There is no threat of recession. George said so. Throwing more tax rates at the rich has only make a stronger American economy (ignoring that the common man has seen a seven year decrease in his income). We don't burn too much oil. George said so. And classicman approves?

It is what wacko extremists do. They cannot challenge facts. So they attack the messenger.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

When it comes to the same old bullshit time and time again, why does classicman always attack tw and never attack Urbane Guerrilla?

Please stop - you are whining like a little girl.

Originally Posted by tw

UG routinely posts personal attacks and political rhetoric from the George Jr administration as broadcast by Rush Limbaugh. Apparently classicman approves. There is no significant inflation. George said so. There is no threat of recession. George said so. Throwing more tax rates at the rich has only make a stronger American economy (ignoring that the common man has seen a seven year decrease in his income). We don't burn too much oil. George said so.

It is what wacko extremists do. They cannot challenge facts. So they attack the messenger.

There ya go making assumptions again Tommy Boy. Oh and wrong ones as usual. Weren't you the one who lived only in a fact based world? What ever happened to that?

And FWIW - you never addressed the actual comment I made even though you quoted it - another "as usual."

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

Please stop - you are whining like a little girl.

Which proves that classicman is as wacko extremist as UG. Posting personal attacks is what wacko extremists do. And again, classicman posts without offering any logical thought. UG has another disciple.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by classicman

Please stop - you are whining like a little girl.

Originally Posted by tw

Which proves that classicman is as wacko extremist as UG. Posting personal attacks is what wacko extremists do. And again, classicman posts without offering any logical thought.

No logical thought needed on this one - It was just an observation.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

When it comes to the same old bullshit time and time again, why does classicman always attack tw and never attack Urbane Guerrilla?

He has to ask. Man, that's funny. Well, it's probably because tw has never mastered the art of being lovable -- and is still single and very likely a virgin as well, being (stand by for the personal attack) about as attractive as a Morlock, on the evidence of what is present in his postings and what is absent. An ability to read between the lines is neither useless nor rare.

UG routinely posts personal attacks and political rhetoric from the George Jr administration as broadcast by Rush Limbaugh. . .

I dunno, I don't quote Rush. The guy who needs me to be a Pinocchio for the Administration is setting himself up for such a public crotchpunting he can use his 'nads for Jayne-hat pompoms by the time I'm done, so out to lunch on the topic is he. I get more Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly time nowadays. Perhaps tw would rather I take Ted Rall as an example of all that is good, speaking of extremists. The guy appeared on Hannity & Colmes once, and I've never seen Sean Hannity so pissed -- and Alan Colmes wasn't saying anything in Rall's defense either, and his left eyebrow was way up in his hairline the whole time. Serious contempt, I'd think.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

Hell no. This was bait so that the dumbest person I ever knew would post - UG. UG - fist fights never occured even in any bar I drank in. But the minute you walked in, everyone would want to hit you. You are that dumb. You are so stupid that even Forest Gump would want to hit you.

That the best you can do? Allegations of dumbth from a man unaware that the given name Forrest contains two R's? While dodging any germane response to the point I brought up... did an MBA once fuck your chihuahua or something?

The Cellarites I fight with the hardest are really the most childish.

[lookout123]

Posting personal attacks is what wacko extremists do.

Ahem. May I point you towards...

Originally Posted by tw

Hell no. This was bait so that the dumbest person I ever knew would post - UG. UG - fist fights never occured even in any bar I drank in. But the minute you walked in, everyone would want to hit you. You are that dumb. You are so stupid that even Forest Gump would want to hit you.

Hmmm.

[tw]

Originally Posted by lookout123

Ahem. May I point you towards...

Absolutely. UG loves it when others mirror him. Can't you just feel his love?

[lookout123]

do you completely miss that you fit the definition of a wacko extremist? a definition that you repeatedly post of our benefit?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by lookout123

do you completely miss that you fit the definition of a wacko extremist? a definition that you repeatedly post of our benefit?

yeh but his wacko extremist is the complete polar opposite of UG's In fact, they are so far apart they are virtually mirror images.