Transgender Second Grader - Page 4

Happy Monkey · 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM

A lot of public institutions have unisex handicapped bathrooms.

freshnesschronic · 02-19-2008, 02:55 PM

Meh. Transgender doesn't qualify for a handicap sticker. Listen I'm not that defensive about it but to my personal bias, unisex bathrooms in public institutions such as grade school just don't make sense. Especially if the school is personally catering for one transgendered boy/girl.

Aliantha · 02-19-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So the school and staff giving special treatment to one kid doesn't infringe on the rights of others?

I don't think there's enough information to say the child is getting special treatment. From what I read in the article, they've mentioned a unisex bathroom, but that could very well be available to all students.

What rights are being infringed upon?

Happy Monkey · 02-19-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Meh. Transgender doesn't qualify for a handicap sticker.

I didn't say it did. I was just saying that unisex bathrooms aren't all that wierd in public institutions.

Clodfobble · 02-19-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Listen I'm not that defensive about it but to my personal bias, unisex bathrooms in public institutions such as grade school just don't make sense.

Fresh, unisex bathrooms are not multiple-stall. It's just a small room with a sink and a toilet that anyone can use. In this case, they already existed in the school--what the school is actually saying is, rather than decide whether you should share a bathroom with the boys or the girls, you will need to go down the hall to use the bathroom by yourself.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-19-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Which special treatment infringes which rights?

Certainly you aren't naive enough to think this kid isn't going to have the teachers walking on eggs. Just trying to remember to never refer to him as him or her, and making sure none of the other kids insult him. You know he's going to get special attention that detracts from the time spent on other kids. Hell, they are already spending money to send out pamphlets to all the parents.

monster · 02-19-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Certainly you aren't naive enough to think this kid isn't going to have the teachers walking on eggs. Just trying to remember to never refer to him as him or her, and making sure none of the other kids insult him. You know he's going to get special attention that detracts from the time spent on other kids. Hell, they are already spending money to send out pamphlets to all the parents.

BS.

Letter home is no different (expense-wise) from the nits and strep ones. Teachers are already walking on eggs. They are afraid to hug crying children for fear of sexual abuse accusations. this is no biggie, comparatively.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-20-2008, 12:07 AM

It's not a letter it's packets of information, not a sheet you run off on the xerox.
All this bullshit because this little bastard won't wear pants? Fuck him, he needs a good swift kick in the ass

Aliantha · 02-20-2008, 01:03 AM

Perhaps the packets of information were donated by some agency or group to help this child. There's really no reference to what these 'packets' of information are. In fact, the word 'packet' can refer to a steam of images from a movie set even, as you no doubt know. I don't see what the problem is. Srsly. What's wrong with a school educating parents a little anyway? Aren't schools supposed to educate?

xoxoxoBruce · 02-20-2008, 01:58 AM

And perhaps they weren't. The little brat still needs a kick in the ass.

DucksNuts · 02-20-2008, 03:31 AM

Hmmm....I think my kids need a man like Bruce around.

Sheldonrs · 02-20-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts

Hmmm....I think my kids need a man like Bruce around.

As an example of what NOT to be.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-20-2008, 11:22 AM

Bah, the kid may be queer, or just effeminate, or whatever, but third grade is too early to figure that out. Put on a pair of pants and get with the program.
He can make major lifestyle changes, on his own time, when it becomes important.

Flint · 02-20-2008, 11:35 AM

I'm not sure what the actual day-to-day impact of this would be. They're not teaching different curriculum to boys and girls, so, what's the difference which gender he wants to "identify" with?

I have a weird first name, many teachers asked me what I want to "go by" ...so calling people different things is already in place. No change there.

Schools already have a dress code, so shouldn't be any question there. Everybody wears the uniform. If you can get a doctor to diagnose you as needing to wear a different uniform for some medical reason, then that part would be a factor.

What else is there?

lookout123 · 02-20-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

All this bullshit because this little bastard won't wear pants? Fuck him, he needs a good swift kick in the ass

'nuff said.

02-19-2008, 02:52 PM	#46
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	A lot of public institutions have unisex handicapped bathrooms. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

02-20-2008, 12:07 AM	#53
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's not a letter it's packets of information, not a sheet you run off on the xerox. All this bullshit because this little bastard won't wear pants? Fuck him, he needs a good swift kick in the ass __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-20-2008, 01:03 AM	#54
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Perhaps the packets of information were donated by some agency or group to help this child. There's really no reference to what these 'packets' of information are. In fact, the word 'packet' can refer to a steam of images from a movie set even, as you no doubt know. I don't see what the problem is. Srsly. What's wrong with a school educating parents a little anyway? Aren't schools supposed to educate? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-20-2008, 01:58 AM	#55
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	And perhaps they weren't. The little brat still needs a kick in the ass. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-20-2008, 11:22 AM	#58
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Bah, the kid may be queer, or just effeminate, or whatever, but third grade is too early to figure that out. Put on a pair of pants and get with the program. He can make major lifestyle changes, on his own time, when it becomes important. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-19-2008, 02:55 PM	#47
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	Meh. Transgender doesn't qualify for a handicap sticker. Listen I'm not that defensive about it but to my personal bias, unisex bathrooms in public institutions such as grade school just don't make sense. Especially if the school is personally catering for one transgendered boy/girl.

02-20-2008, 03:31 AM	#56
DucksNuts Bitchy Little Brat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,067	Hmmm....I think my kids need a man like Bruce around.

02-20-2008, 11:35 AM	#59
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I'm not sure what the actual day-to-day impact of this would be. They're not teaching different curriculum to boys and girls, so, what's the difference which gender he wants to "identify" with? I have a weird first name, many teachers asked me what I want to "go by" ...so calling people different things is already in place. No change there. Schools already have a dress code, so shouldn't be any question there. Everybody wears the uniform. If you can get a doctor to diagnose you as needing to wear a different uniform for some medical reason, then that part would be a factor. What else is there? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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