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04-13-2012, 12:26 AM | #1 |
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Ann Romney/Hilary Rosen
So, CNN contributor Hilary Rosen, commenting on Romney's repeated statements that his wife, being his chief council on women's issues, tells him the most important issue to women is the economy (and Obama's mishandling of it), said that since Ann had "never worked a day in her life", she doesn't really have a leg to stand on when speaking for women's economic hardships. Suddenly, it's a big deal to conservatives. Big enough that not only has Rosen apologised, but both Obama AND Biden have made strong statements against Rosen's comments.
...What the... everholylivingmotherofbloody fuck? The entire controversy here is that using the word "worked" to be a synonym "employed" is... not allowed when talking about mothers? Please, somebody, try to explain this one to me.
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04-13-2012, 12:37 AM | #2 |
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Hilary Rosen is an ass.
She received and deserved criticism from BOTH sides, not just conservatives. "both Obama AND Biden have made strong statements against Rosen's comments." Good, she's an ass and they shouldn't want to be associated with her. From what I remember, she pretty much failed at everything she did & was
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04-13-2012, 12:45 AM | #3 |
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What's wrong with saying that Ann Romney hasn't ever worked, in the context of her economic experience, classic? That's what I'm asking. I understand that Rosen's reviled. I don't understand what's wrong with the thing that she's being attacked for.
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Not Another Mommy War
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04-13-2012, 07:55 AM | #5 | |
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Infi's nailed it.
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04-13-2012, 09:47 AM | #6 | |
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To get women voters, Romney needs to push the correct statistic that 92% of all job losses under the Obama Administration have been among women but make sure they never figure out why.
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04-13-2012, 11:13 AM | #7 |
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Yeah, Infi's found the quotes I'da wanted to find, and highlighted what I'da wanted to highlight.
Raising children is hard work. Bloody hard work if you work all day and then have to still raise them single-handedly and do all the shopping and the housework - not because you're a single mother but because that's woman's work. I did not grow up in that household. My dad did not "help" with the children or "help" with the dishes. The 'rents worked shifts (at work) to earn money and then worked shifts at home to bring us up. My bro wet his pants before school? One week Dad cleaned him up, cleaned it up, put the pants in the wash. I had a migraine and puked all over the cloakroom after lunch? My Mum brought me home. My Mum is not an intellectual. She did not need work to fulfill her; work was a chore. Had she had the choice she would have stayed at home with us, but probably volunteered. Had she had viable childcare options (like pre-school) she might even have gone back into education - I said she wasn't intellectual, not that she was stupid. I wish she'd had the money to find something she loved doing. She taught us all the read and write before we got to school. She was the driving force in my love of reading and of poetry. My Daddy taught me my times tables (multiplication) when they were making me cry. Had either of them stayed at home I'd never denigrate them by saying they didn't work. But what can you say otherwise. They worked double-plus-good? ETA One of Mum's fiercest and harshest ephitets is, "Of course she's never worked a day in her life!" Applied to friends, neighbours, pop singers, actresses et al. Even to the Queen Mum. I think this comes from the fact that Nanny didn't work until after Mum left home, which meant Grandad worked far longer and she never saw him. And she was forbidden to play with other children because "I don't want to be alone, what do you think I had a baby for?!"
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04-13-2012, 11:26 AM | #8 |
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My mother stayed home when we kids were young. She said she never thought anyone could raise her kids better than she could herself.
And they sacrificed their asses off to make that happen. She didn't get to buy herself nice clothes, they didn't drive fancy cars or go to expensive restaurants. There were no housekeepers or nannies or gardeners or any of the trappings of the mega-rich. So yeah, I now like Ann romney less than I like Mitt romney. Good job Ann. You married money. Raising children is hard. But popping out kids isn't such a miracle. It's a little science involving sex and reproductive organs. People do it every day. I don't exalt her particular brand of 'poor hardworking mother.' Meh. |
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"Not worked a day in [his/her] life" is a common phrase, and it's unfortunate that it doesn't take into account the worked=employment vs. worked=labored. Though, it is often used in a relative way, and a -for example- coal miner could use it with respect to an office worker. I do wonder whether anyone who was outraged over Rosen's treatment of Romney ever thought of "welfare queens" as lazy people who should be forced to get a job, or if being a mother is only work if you're lucky enough to have a husband who can support you.
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04-13-2012, 12:06 PM | #10 |
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This this this.
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04-13-2012, 12:24 PM | #11 |
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I second (or fourth) Ibram's 'this' to HM's post.
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I can say I have personally observed that this can be a misstep in thinking which has cascading effects.
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04-13-2012, 12:43 PM | #13 |
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You don't want to split hairs, but you do.
I'm sure HM would take back his hasty and unfortunate use of the word 'lucky' if he could. Oh wow, we're back to the OP. |
04-13-2012, 12:45 PM | #14 |
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Okay, you caught me red-handed (but not red-herring'ed). I do love to split hairs, play devil's advocate, and other such "thought exercises" ...
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That's OK. Me too.
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