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Technically "1 a : one given habitually to greedy and voracious eating and drinking". I use the term to include wealth. I'm not going to quantify what's enough. Just like you know when your belly is full, you know when you have enough. Quote:
People who have enough and continue to accumulate wealth are part of the reason there's as much poverty as there is. They are part of the reason that welfare rolls are as high as they are, and part of the reason your taxes are high. They are also part of the reason that America's middle class is disappearing.
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Forgive me if I have you confused with someone else, but I think I remember that you, CF, and Lookout have defended Christianity. Think about loving your neighbor as you love yourself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Is there any consistency between these philosophies and your philosophy concerning wealth?
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A child only needs enough money to buy a piece of candy. A young man only needs enough money for a tank of gas and a bottle of whiskey. Then, he knocks up a girl, and now he needs enough money to buy a house; enough money to raise a child. Then he needs enough money to put that kid through college. Then he needs enough money to pay for his kid's wedding. Then he needs enough money to retire comfortably.
All along the way, he has strived to earn more and more money, to meet his increasing responsibilities. He has learned to be prepared for emergencies, and always have some savings set aside. There is no static amount that constitutes "enough" money. If wolves were clawing at your door, how many bullets would you feel are "enough" to protect your family?
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I don't know. Are they werewolves?
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But more importantly it doesn't change the fact that you have established some level of "enough" and anyone who sets themselves to the task of accumulating more than that is deemed to be a glutton. But you can't be pinned down to actually define what "enough" is. You sound like the sniveling little kid in the corner who is angry that someone has nicer shoes than him. The kid with the nicer shoes must be a self centered asshole or he wouldn't have nicer shoes than you. Quote:
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answer a question with something quantifiable please.
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It is a broken way of looking at economics. Almost nothing in economics is "zero sum". If you look at it on a national scale, clearly and obviously the American pie of 1907 is tiny and the pie of 2007 is huge. This is due to the creation of wealth that happens when innovations, education, productivity and dynamism multiply upon themselves. (I had to use the term "American pie". Sorry, there was no alternative.) A free market does not guarantee people equal sizes of the pie. But it does seem to be the best guarantor of a pie that increases in size... until the poor people of 2007 live nearly as well as the moderately rich people of 1907. |
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zero sum only works in a world where nothing is created or subtracted. In the market, not even commodities fit the bill there. The closest is real estate, but they've tested the boundaries with that even.
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One time my brother was bashing Americans for eating big, gluttonous meals, while others in the world are starving. We happened to be eating out at the time, having just finished a big expensive meal (that my greedy, weath-accumulating dad was able to pay for).
Somebody asked my brother "Didn't you just eat a big, gluttonous meal?!" ...and he replied, self-righteously, "Well, I could have just had a salad." He could have, but he didn't. It's easy to say that other people should have something taken from them, but nobody wants to give up their stuff.
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Your can't see the forest for the questions. Ok. You know what enough is.
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You're kidding yourself if you think Christianity is consistent with capitalism.
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