Watching the Democrats - it's Fun and Macabre! - Page 12

xoxoxoBruce · 01-07-2013, 11:09 AM

OMG Sam, how did you avoid becoming a statistic.

IamSam · 01-07-2013, 12:22 PM

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OMG Sam, how did you avoid becoming a statistic.

Hah! It wasn't easy. I'm still hanging out here at the bottom of the fiscal cliff out in Island in the Sky Nat'l Park. It's a sunny morning, but cold!

classicman · 01-07-2013, 07:01 PM

Hahahaha I <3 Bruce!

Perhaps dear Ibster, we could address the issue in those VERY SPECIFIC "highly localized" areas and leave the VAST MAJORITY or the rest of the fucking country alone.
Just a thought.

Ibby · 01-07-2013, 07:04 PM

show me a way to reduce gun crime without affecting people in areas with gun crime that isn't, for example, the sort of handgun bans already in place in many cities that NRA types also scream and holler about.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-07-2013, 07:11 PM

Better schools and economic opportunities?

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Originally Posted by Classicman

Perhaps dear Ibster, we could address the issue in those VERY SPECIFIC "highly localized" areas and leave the VAST MAJORITY or the rest of the fucking country alone.
Just a thought.

I could be wrong but the vast majority of guns used in these types of areas are illegal, therefore banning guns will probably not work without changing the gun culture in that region. From the data, I'm not convinced that handgun bans in D.C. or Chicago really had an effect.

Personally, I think regulating access to legal guns and harsh penalties on illegal guns is the only policy that may reduce gun violence without extremely harsh gun control (which may not work anyways...). However, in the end it is going to be gun culture (economic opportunity, etc.) not gun policy that is going to reduce gun violence in the US.

glatt · 01-07-2013, 07:14 PM

Local gun restrictions don't work. Guns are small and easily smuggled across local borders where there are no border controls. Border controls only exist on the national level, and that is the only level where gun restrictions have a chance of working.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-07-2013, 07:19 PM

Considering the US is the largest exporter of legal and illegal guns, I don't think national gun control will work either. Seriously, where do you think most of the guns in Brazil and Africa come from?

classicman · 01-07-2013, 07:23 PM

Oh c'mon PH45, we stopped all those illegal drugs "just like that" by changing the laws.

Heck, when was the last time you saw any coke or weed on campus?

ZenGum · 01-07-2013, 07:25 PM

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Better schools and economic opportunities?

SOCIALIST!!!!! OMG!

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Considering the US is the largest exporter of legal and illegal guns, I don't think national gun control will work either. Seriously, where do you think most of the guns in Brazil and Africa come from?

Well, you have to trade something for all those drugs.

Seriously, want to reduce shootings? How about legalising all drugs?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-07-2013, 07:28 PM

They can have my guns. $24,000. Cash. I'll even throw in the ammo.
Then a couple hundred million people won't be paranoid anymore.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-07-2013, 07:36 PM

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Oh c'mon PH45, we stopped all those illegal drugs "just like that" by changing the laws.

Heck, when was the last time you saw any coke or weed on campus?

I ain't see nuttin'.

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SOCIALIST!!!!! OMG!

No no no. You see, it was Romney that suggested that economic opportunities will reduce sex trafficking, therefore promoting economic opportunity it isn't socialist until Obama says it.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-07-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Considering the US is the largest exporter of legal and illegal guns, I don't think national gun control will work either. Seriously, where do you think most of the guns in Brazil and Africa come from?

Probably the largest portion of the cheap imported guns are made in Brazil.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-07-2013, 07:47 PM

Could be. I do know that a lot (not sure proportionally) of the "assault rifles" are shipped from US to Paraguay and then pass through an unregulated border with Brazil.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-07-2013, 07:59 PM

Yes but US made "assault rifles" are only used by good guys, the bad guys use AK's made in China and the former Soviet Bloc countries.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-07-2013, 08:13 PM

Well that's what I heard. Could have been wrong or maybe there was some misinterpretation.

01-07-2013, 11:09 AM	#166
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	OMG Sam, how did you avoid becoming a statistic. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-07-2013, 07:01 PM	#168
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Hahahaha I <3 Bruce! Perhaps dear Ibster, we could address the issue in those VERY SPECIFIC "highly localized" areas and leave the VAST MAJORITY or the rest of the fucking country alone. Just a thought. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-07-2013, 07:04 PM	#169
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	show me a way to reduce gun crime without affecting people in areas with gun crime that isn't, for example, the sort of handgun bans already in place in many cities that NRA types also scream and holler about. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

01-07-2013, 07:19 PM	#172
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Considering the US is the largest exporter of legal and illegal guns, I don't think national gun control will work either. Seriously, where do you think most of the guns in Brazil and Africa come from? __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

01-07-2013, 07:23 PM	#173
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Oh c'mon PH45, we stopped all those illegal drugs "just like that" by changing the laws. Heck, when was the last time you saw any coke or weed on campus? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-07-2013, 07:14 PM	#171
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Local gun restrictions don't work. Guns are small and easily smuggled across local borders where there are no border controls. Border controls only exist on the national level, and that is the only level where gun restrictions have a chance of working.

01-07-2013, 07:28 PM	#175
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They can have my guns. $24,000. Cash. I'll even throw in the ammo. Then a couple hundred million people won't be paranoid anymore. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-07-2013, 07:47 PM	#178
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Could be. I do know that a lot (not sure proportionally) of the "assault rifles" are shipped from US to Paraguay and then pass through an unregulated border with Brazil. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

01-07-2013, 07:59 PM	#179
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes but US made "assault rifles" are only used by good guys, the bad guys use AK's made in China and the former Soviet Bloc countries. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-07-2013, 08:13 PM	#180
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Well that's what I heard. Could have been wrong or maybe there was some misinterpretation. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

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