Little Teenage Bitch thread - Page 12

Clodfobble · 11-10-2008, 09:43 PM

Definitely depends on local laws--you can't get anything from a doctor without parental notification here. Which is not to say that they check the ID of the adult you bring with you. But it can be hard finding someone who looks old enough to be your parent who will actually take you to get birth control and keep the secret.

But Ibram... you're not getting the spermicide as an alternative to the condoms, right? Right? Because spermicide ain't good enough on its own. You can get condoms that are already lubricated with spermicide, if she's just looking for a little extra guarantee.

morethanpretty · 11-10-2008, 11:36 PM

Actually Clod, you can get b.c. at 17 w/o parental consent in TX. I know, that is when I went and got it. Look around for local health/woman's clinics. I know its not the states where we have Planned Parenthood but ya'll might have some version of. It sounds dirty to some, but also run a search for "abortion clinics" they prob have the same birth control services. Like I've said already, and I can't stress more, if ya'll are gonna be sexually active, you have to go to the doc (you too bub) to be screened for STDs and other issues. I know ya'll are in the clear on the STDs now, but it won't hurt anything. Women, even if they don't change partners, should go after they become active or 18yrs. Personally I think all the age and parental consent laws cause more harm than good, but if there is no other way for her to get a gyno exam, then she's gonna have to talk to her mom.
Another path I just thought of: if she has a family/general doc and can go to them w/o parental consent, tell her to talk to them. General docs here can do woman's health exams and I guess prescribe birth control too. When I was 16yngr my family doc didn't ever need parental consent b/c my mom had signed pprs giving it already...sneaky sneaky huh?

Ibby · 11-10-2008, 11:53 PM

no, clod, i can't get condoms already spermicided; that's the problem, i've looked and can't find them. which means, no tail for ibby 'till he finds an alternative.

we just plain can't get it without her mother knowing; we definitely aren't telling her. It's bad enough having your girlfriend's momma know you're gettin' it on with her daughter... it's a lot worse when she's the school librarian, and knows your parents, and keeps her daughter on a really tight leash, and is pretty uptight about everything in general, and could easily make your life a living hell.

lumberjim · 11-11-2008, 12:01 AM

all librarians enjoy anal

Juniper · 11-11-2008, 12:24 AM

Care package for Ibby, anyone?

OK, so let's think about this. Ruling out hormonal BC, your alternatives are condoms, spermicide, yanking it out at the right time, NFP, and combinations thereof.

NFP = Natural Family Planning. It's got a bad rap, but when it's done right can really work - especially as part of a combo. At your age doing all the complicated temperature charting crap isn't going to be likely, so along with just keeping track of days (and keep in mind, also at this age - or any age - her cycle may not be regular) there is a thing called cervical mucus. Sounds gross, but it's actually a pretty good indicator of when you ought to not be doing nothin' even with a layer of latex.

Check out this link - http://www.mjbovo.com/Contracept/Instruct-NatCerv.htm

Sundae · 11-11-2008, 06:06 AM

So wait, what's the problem with condoms again?
Pretty much every woman in my peer group insisted on their use because the pill isn't 100% effective anyway. And because they're the only barrier against STDs. Again, I know that's not an issue for you right now, but what I'm saying is you'll be dealing with condoms for a long time - if you can get used to them it would be safer and easier.

Re injections - I know more people who have had trouble with the pill than injections. But I do accept YMMV. I've never had any trouble with any birth control, except being too slack to take the pill. And vitamins are in no way necessary for everyone! Children, OAPs, pregnant or nursing mothers.

Sheldonrs · 11-11-2008, 07:31 AM

It's times like this when I think of something my Grandmother always used to say.
"It's just not sex without something in your ass."

I miss Grandma.

Ibby · 11-11-2008, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

So wait, what's the problem with condoms again?

She doesn't trust 'em.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-11-2008, 10:41 AM

She's right not to trust them, like anything else, they're not 100% foolproof.
BUT, they should be augmented, not eliminated. You're betting the rest of your life on it.

Sheldonrs · 11-11-2008, 11:59 AM

Just do what I do Ib. Fuck her in the ass. :-)

Clodfobble · 11-11-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juniper

Care package for Ibby, anyone?

Didja sign up for Secret Santa this year, Ibram?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

no, clod, i can't get condoms already spermicided; that's the problem, i've looked and can't find them. which means, no tail for ibby 'till he finds an alternative.

I'd say look online, but I guess your parents might vet your mail, huh? Maybe that rules out care packages too...

Juniper · 11-11-2008, 12:27 PM

Perhaps he could rent a P.O. box.

Sheldonrs · 11-11-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juniper

Perhaps he could rent a P.O. box.

He already has the box and he's getting pretty PO'd. lol!!!

Ibby · 11-14-2008, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Ravel's Bolero? Much more arty.

Ahh, to be young and in lust. Oops love. Love, I meant love.

Hmm... Bolero IS pretty good for it, actually. gave it a shot... a little too short, though, yeah. it started over a second time... its kinda hard to tell though, except it just gets quieter and keeps going...

Sheldonrs · 11-14-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

...gave it a shot... a little too short, though, yeah. ...

Sorry to hear that. But I'm sure you make up for it with determination. :-)

11-10-2008, 09:43 PM	#166
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Definitely depends on local laws--you can't get anything from a doctor without parental notification here. Which is not to say that they check the ID of the adult you bring with you. But it can be hard finding someone who looks old enough to be your parent who will actually take you to get birth control and keep the secret. But Ibram... you're not getting the spermicide as an alternative to the condoms, right? Right? Because spermicide ain't good enough on its own. You can get condoms that are already lubricated with spermicide, if she's just looking for a little extra guarantee. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

11-10-2008, 11:36 PM	#167
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	Actually Clod, you can get b.c. at 17 w/o parental consent in TX. I know, that is when I went and got it. Look around for local health/woman's clinics. I know its not the states where we have Planned Parenthood but ya'll might have some version of. It sounds dirty to some, but also run a search for "abortion clinics" they prob have the same birth control services. Like I've said already, and I can't stress more, if ya'll are gonna be sexually active, you have to go to the doc (you too bub) to be screened for STDs and other issues. I know ya'll are in the clear on the STDs now, but it won't hurt anything. Women, even if they don't change partners, should go after they become active or 18yrs. Personally I think all the age and parental consent laws cause more harm than good, but if there is no other way for her to get a gyno exam, then she's gonna have to talk to her mom. Another path I just thought of: if she has a family/general doc and can go to them w/o parental consent, tell her to talk to them. General docs here can do woman's health exams and I guess prescribe birth control too. When I was 16yngr my family doc didn't ever need parental consent b/c my mom had signed pprs giving it already...sneaky sneaky huh? __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

11-10-2008, 11:53 PM	#168
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	no, clod, i can't get condoms already spermicided; that's the problem, i've looked and can't find them. which means, no tail for ibby 'till he finds an alternative. we just plain can't get it without her mother knowing; we definitely aren't telling her. It's bad enough having your girlfriend's momma know you're gettin' it on with her daughter... it's a lot worse when she's the school librarian, and knows your parents, and keeps her daughter on a really tight leash, and is pretty uptight about everything in general, and could easily make your life a living hell. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-11-2008, 12:01 AM	#169
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	all librarians enjoy anal __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

11-11-2008, 07:31 AM	#172
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	It's times like this when I think of something my Grandmother always used to say. "It's just not sex without something in your ass." I miss Grandma. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

11-11-2008, 12:24 AM	#170
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	Care package for Ibby, anyone? OK, so let's think about this. Ruling out hormonal BC, your alternatives are condoms, spermicide, yanking it out at the right time, NFP, and combinations thereof. NFP = Natural Family Planning. It's got a bad rap, but when it's done right can really work - especially as part of a combo. At your age doing all the complicated temperature charting crap isn't going to be likely, so along with just keeping track of days (and keep in mind, also at this age - or any age - her cycle may not be regular) there is a thing called cervical mucus. Sounds gross, but it's actually a pretty good indicator of when you ought to not be doing nothin' even with a layer of latex. Check out this link - http://www.mjbovo.com/Contracept/Instruct-NatCerv.htm

11-11-2008, 06:06 AM	#171
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	So wait, what's the problem with condoms again? Pretty much every woman in my peer group insisted on their use because the pill isn't 100% effective anyway. And because they're the only barrier against STDs. Again, I know that's not an issue for you right now, but what I'm saying is you'll be dealing with condoms for a long time - if you can get used to them it would be safer and easier. Re injections - I know more people who have had trouble with the pill than injections. But I do accept YMMV. I've never had any trouble with any birth control, except being too slack to take the pill. And vitamins are in no way necessary for everyone! Children, OAPs, pregnant or nursing mothers.

11-11-2008, 10:41 AM	#174
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	She's right not to trust them, like anything else, they're not 100% foolproof. BUT, they should be augmented, not eliminated. You're betting the rest of your life on it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-11-2008, 11:59 AM	#175
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	Just do what I do Ib. Fuck her in the ass. :-) __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

11-11-2008, 12:27 PM	#177
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	Perhaps he could rent a P.O. box.

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