Obama Announces Re-election Bid

[Spexxvet]

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[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Again, everybody: this is why the politics forum gets ugly. Want it to stop? Tell LO to stop. Nip it in the bud.

Not from what I've seen in this thread. Lookout seems pretty reasonable to me. You seem to be the one on the attack.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Not from what I've seen in this thread. Lookout seems pretty reasonable to me. You seem to be the one on the attack.

So you're ok with his demeaning, snide, provocative comments?

[kerosene]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

So you're ok with his demeaning, snide, provocative comments?

A lot of people get snide and provocative, not just LO. It is sort of the nature of these kinds of discussions. And he has not gone overboard with it, either. I think he maybe made one comment that was somewhat that way. I don't really see demeaning. If anything, it has been refreshing to see the issues actually discussed in here, rather than a lot of childish name-calling. I am just not seeing that with this discussion.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

More name calling and ridicule. Again, everybody: this is why the politics forum gets ugly. Want it to stop? Tell ME to stop. Nip it in the bud.

FTFY

Originally Posted by glatt

Didn't you call him a hammer in the post just before that?

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

You seem to be the one on the attack.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

So you're ok with his demeaning, snide, provocative comments?

Lookout may have been a bastard in some other thread. I dunno. I don't read all of the Cellar. But I've re-read each Lookout post since #183 (where he first chimes in this thread). And I see no evidence of bad behavior on Lookout's part. Rather it looks to me like you are trying to start a vendetta against Lookout.

I'll give you an example. In post #183 Lookout includes defense as one of the departments that needs to be cut. In post #185 he specifically says that military R&D should be cut.

Then in #189 you say "There's a whole lot of waste in the military, but, because of your ideology, you don't want to cut there." Clearly you did not read or did not understand his posts.

Lookout calls you on it in post #191. Which you complain about in post #192.

Really? Seriously? All the UG, tw, and Merc posts on this board you've got to work with and this is what you want to complain about for meanness?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

So you're ok with his demeaning, snide, provocative comments?

Spexx, this is coming from a centrist who really likes to hear what you have to say, please try to stick with the meat of the posts. Lookout's style is meant to be amusing and if you read it without the hate of UG/Merc it really can be. He posts a lot like we used to when the Cellar had a strong political forum smart, edgy, and funny, nobody soft-selling their beliefs but not hating on each other. We have sucked ass here for quite a while and we all need to be on board if we're going to get real again.

I'd like to end the home deduction because it creates an unnatural pressure to buy that played into the bubble a bit.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

Every Senator and Congressman must fill out his own tax returns by hand and without assistance. Currently tax accountants do it for them because they do not even understand the tax laws they have created.

This got skipped over, but I think this is a great idea. All the BS deductions they miss… right into the coffers of the Gov’t.

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Oh and everyone does pay something into the federal treasury, in the form of federal excise taxes (eg gas tax) and payroll taxes (FICA), in which those with wages under $100K pay a higher percentage than those over $100K (since payroll taxes are only on the first $100K).

Change the payroll tax - in essence that’s has the same effect as a deduction, of sorts. And interest income… tax it the same as regular wages. IIRC that would have one of the largest effects on increasing revenue.

OH, and thanks Pete. Bout time someone pointed the finger in the right direction.

[ZenGum]

DNA "sample"?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

DNA "sample"?

...in the mouth?

[lookout123]

I will not buttfuck him in the mouth.

[TheMercenary]

I can't wait till the Demoncrats re-propose a VAT and try to blame it on the Republickins. God Damm Fools..........

[Spexxvet]

Don't forget the Osprey.

[infinite monkey]

Another finger-pointing thread for the peanut gallery to pop up in, saying "SEEEE? SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?"

ffs

[Pete Zicato]

Only by Spexx. I've actually been enjoying this thread. Some conservative ideas espoused without the usual conservative vitriol.