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Old 12-06-2005, 09:02 PM   #16
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Els--is it possible that you are drunk?
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:08 PM   #17
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Naked womens, is naked womens. You never know what you're gonna get until you unwrap 'em. That's why naked womens is good.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:39 PM   #18
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Naked womens, is naked womens. You never know what you're gonna get until you unwrap 'em. That's why naked womens is good.

OH that SOOOO needs to go on a t-shirt !!!!!!!
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:49 PM   #19
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Methinks Lisa Franzetta is an attention whore.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:46 AM   #20
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"...but hunting is a choice and undertaken almost solely for the pleasure of killing animals (please note - consensus of opinion - not my view)."

whose consensus? I don't know if i agree with this...
I was referring to most people I know, or more accurately most people I have discussed this with. Perhaps it's because in this country, hunting is often associated with fox hunting and hare coursing.

My personal views on hunting match yours.

I wouldn't want to hunt my own meat because I doubt I'd catch anything & would just end up cold & miserable. But if my meat consumption depended on it, I'd find some way of taking part.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:34 AM   #21
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Naked womens, is naked womens. You never know what you're gonna get until you unwrap 'em. That's why naked womens is good.

OH that SOOOO needs to go on a t-shirt !!!!!!!
Large, 100% cotton. I'll take two.

And a coffee mug.

What the hell, I'll take the hat too.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:45 AM   #22
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As for PETA, they kill all kinds of pets. Between 1998 and 2004 they killed 12,473 of the 15,661 animals they received in their Norfolk VA headquarters. That is a 79.6% kill rate with only 18.5% adopted. In 2000, when the Associated Press first noted PETA's Kervorkian-esque tendencies, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk complained that actually taking care of animals costs more than killing them. "We could become a no-kill shelter immediately," she admitted.

PETA kills animals. Because it has other financial priorities like fund raising.

And they are actually one of the chief terrorist groups in the country according to a friend who is a trained security consultant.

Check out http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
To give PETA their due, they take in a lot of animals who are just not going to survive, and they euthanize them. As a biologist who firmly believes in experimenting on animals, I am not the biggest cheerleader in the PETA fan club, but I do believe the animals need to be treated as humanely as possible and with dignity and respect. I don't like PETA's tactics (they destroy or vandalize personal property, and endanger peoples' lives) but they have helped in stopping the worst excesses of groups like the cosmetics industry, who were tormenting animals for no really good reason (using animals when they didn't have to, needlessly keeping animals in terrible conditions, that sort of thing).

Just remember that PETA is one of those "big tent" groups that pulls in anyone from well-meaning but ignorant people, fund-raising sharps, vegans, ovo-lactans, new-age crystal-power gurus, you name it. And folks like the young lady pictured above. "It's for the animals!" Kind of like "What about the children?!"

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Old 12-07-2005, 09:23 AM   #23
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I think Avon dumped the bunnies long before PETA came on the scene. That was the work of a LOT of organizations involved in aminal welfare causes.

PETA just reaps the benefits of that.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:13 PM   #24
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Well not only do they kill lots of animals, donated by people who expect that an animal rights group is a group that has a no-kill policy, but they fund terror groups like the Earth Liberation Front, the Animal Liberation Front, the arsonist Rodney Coronado ($75,000 in legal defense funds). No matter what ms. kitty cat says about not having a connection- their tax returns tell a different story.

http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/21

Look, I applaud people raising concerns about animal experimentation and inhumane treatment of animals. I think factory farms are an abomination and I try to eat only organic meat from small farms where I (or my food coop members) can talk to the farmers. But this group is beyond the pale.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:39 PM   #25
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Looks to me as if the cruelty is directed at the bimb....I mean the young lady in the cage.
PETA sucks anyway. A very high profit non profit organization. Where the hell's Ted Nugent when you need him?
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:24 PM   #26
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We were cracking on my sister-in-law for her 30 dollar per month auto payment to PETA. Pete says "It could go to a worse outfit". I asked, "Like who?" She says, "Al Queda."
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:23 AM   #27
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Where the hell's Ted Nugent when you need him?
He's busy. It's deer season.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:17 AM   #28
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:39 PM   #29
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To give PETA their due, they take in a lot of animals who are just not going to survive, and they euthanize them. ~~snip
The animals being killed and dropped in dumpsters were in perfect condition when they were killed, according to the vet they were picked up from and forensic examination.
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:19 AM   #30
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In PETA's dictionary:

Kill : cruelty

euthanize: compassionate

what a bunch of anal openings.
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