8/6/2006: Beirut Photoshop - Page 2

Ibby · 08-06-2006, 05:49 PM

That coupled with their indiscriminate killing marks Hisballah as a terrorist organization in my book.

Armies win by beating their opponents into submission.
Terrorists win by tricking their opponents into thinking theyve been beaten into submission.

Undertoad · 08-06-2006, 08:00 PM

From time to time I think the mainstream will unravel.

http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com...t-edition.html

The same woman wails after her home is destroyed July 22... and again at another home, August 5.

Same photographer...

BigV · 08-06-2006, 08:21 PM

It happens way too much. Calling it anything but poor editorial judgement reveals too much tinfoil cap for my taste.

Quote:

DURHAM, NC (March 9, 2005) – The National Press Photographers Association, the society of professional photojournalism, today said that Newsweek magazine’s use of an altered photograph of Martha Stewart on its cover last week was “a major ethical breach.” Stewart’s head was superimposed upon the body of a model who was photographed separately in a Los Angeles studio, and the composite image was published on Newsweek’s cover.

tippy · 08-07-2006, 04:58 AM

No doubt that is photoshopped.

and for sure, journos want to make their money and everyone wants to have shot the iconic shot. every photographer woudl like their vietnam moment, the photo that once seen cannot be forgotten.
www.vietnamwar.com/vietcongofficershootsman.jpg
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/...y/gallery2.htm

But as for all the green helmet/white t-shirt stuff...yup, maybe they are going for the photo op, they won't be the 1st they won't be the last, but what you can't change about those images is: a dead kid is a dead kid.

chances of those kids being members of Hezbollah or any other terrorist organisation?

Undertoad · 08-07-2006, 06:05 AM

Journalists are shown by a Hizbollah guerrilla group the damage caused by Israeli attacks on a Hizbollah stronghold in southern Beirut, July 24 2006. (Adnan Hajj/Reuters)

A Lebanese woman looks at the sky as she walks past a building flattened during an overnight Israeli air raid on Beirut's suburbs August 5, 2006. (Adnan Hajj/Reuters)

"Overnight". Same building, two weeks apart.

But yeah Tippy it's not like they don't have other destruction to photograph. But the wire services should be better than this. The world depends on it.

MaggieL · 08-07-2006, 08:21 AM

Elspode · 08-07-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad[I

A Lebanese woman looks at the sky as she walks past a building flattened during an overnight Israeli air raid on Beirut's suburbs August 5, 2006. (Adnan Hajj/Reuters)[/i]

I'm sure that what they meant was that the building was flattened during an overnight raid on some other night, and that the woman was walking past it on August 5. Just some bad caption writing.

MaggieL · 08-07-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

Just some bad caption writing.

Again.

Dypok · 08-07-2006, 08:27 PM

That photoshoppery has got to be the worst I've ever seen. And they fired the guy...Reuters should be fired. It is so bad, it might even be on purpose. Maybe its a political statement by the shopper. The Media will print nearly anything these days, and this is another fine example.

MaggieL · 08-08-2006, 05:40 AM

Analysis of another Reutersgate/Hajj image discovered to be doctored. (This is the one of the IDF F-16 "dropping bombs and launching rockets")

chrisinhouston · 08-08-2006, 09:12 AM

Yea and I remember when this ran!

Flint · 08-08-2006, 09:26 AM

They have now removed from their database all photos ever submitted by this guy.

MaggieL · 08-08-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

They have now removed from their database all photos ever submitted by this guy.

The claim being that it's because they can no longer vouch for their veracity. I kind of suspect it's also to inhibit independant analysis to forstall any further embarassment.

Somehow I doubt that will be enough to inhibit the Pajamahedeen, who have proven Rather resourceful in the past. ;-) The Democrat Underground crowd is already floating the theory that Hajj is a plant. They must be rattled; last time it took a few weeks before they blamed Rathergate on Rove.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-08-2006, 02:01 PM

Christ Maggie, give it a rest. This has nothing to do with republicans or Democrats, right or left.

It's about a major media source being hoodwinked by an unscrupulous correspondent.

chrisinhouston · 08-08-2006, 02:28 PM

The cellar covered this issue back at the beginning of the war with Iraq, http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php...doctored+image

08-06-2006, 05:49 PM	#16
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	That coupled with their indiscriminate killing marks Hisballah as a terrorist organization in my book. Armies win by beating their opponents into submission. Terrorists win by tricking their opponents into thinking theyve been beaten into submission. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

08-07-2006, 08:21 AM	#21
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	__________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

08-07-2006, 08:27 PM	#24
Dypok Fuel the body, build the muscle, burn the fat, free the mind Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 27	That photoshoppery has got to be the worst I've ever seen. And they fired the guy...Reuters should be fired. It is so bad, it might even be on purpose. Maybe its a political statement by the shopper. The Media will print nearly anything these days, and this is another fine example. __________________ There follows an untranslatable play on words with the use of local idiomatic expressions.

08-08-2006, 05:40 AM	#25
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Analysis of another Reutersgate/Hajj image discovered to be doctored. (This is the one of the IDF F-16 "dropping bombs and launching rockets") __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

08-08-2006, 09:12 AM	#26
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	Yea and I remember when this ran! Attached Images

08-06-2006, 08:00 PM	#17
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	From time to time I think the mainstream will unravel. http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com...t-edition.html The same woman wails after her home is destroyed July 22... and again at another home, August 5. Same photographer...

08-07-2006, 04:58 AM	#19
tippy Writer of Writings Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 14	No doubt that is photoshopped. and for sure, journos want to make their money and everyone wants to have shot the iconic shot. every photographer woudl like their vietnam moment, the photo that once seen cannot be forgotten. www.vietnamwar.com/vietcongofficershootsman.jpg http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/...y/gallery2.htm But as for all the green helmet/white t-shirt stuff...yup, maybe they are going for the photo op, they won't be the 1st they won't be the last, but what you can't change about those images is: a dead kid is a dead kid. chances of those kids being members of Hezbollah or any other terrorist organisation?

08-07-2006, 06:05 AM	#20
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Journalists are shown by a Hizbollah guerrilla group the damage caused by Israeli attacks on a Hizbollah stronghold in southern Beirut, July 24 2006. (Adnan Hajj/Reuters) A Lebanese woman looks at the sky as she walks past a building flattened during an overnight Israeli air raid on Beirut's suburbs August 5, 2006. (Adnan Hajj/Reuters) "Overnight". Same building, two weeks apart. But yeah Tippy it's not like they don't have other destruction to photograph. But the wire services should be better than this. The world depends on it.

08-08-2006, 09:26 AM	#27
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	They have now removed from their database all photos ever submitted by this guy. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-08-2006, 02:01 PM	#29
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Christ Maggie, give it a rest. This has nothing to do with republicans or Democrats, right or left. It's about a major media source being hoodwinked by an unscrupulous correspondent. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-08-2006, 02:28 PM	#30
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	The cellar covered this issue back at the beginning of the war with Iraq, http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php...doctored+image

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