White Males Are Committing Suicide In Record Numbers In United States - Page 2

DanaC · 02-19-2008, 02:23 PM

Why is the title of this article relating to white males? The rate of suicides amongst middle-aged men rose 20 per cent. In the article it states that rates of suicide amongst middle-aged women rose 31 per cent....so why is the thrust of this thread the rise in male suicides? Surely the bigger hike is in suicides amongst middle-aged women.

freshnesschronic · 02-19-2008, 02:48 PM

where the heck did this article come from? I see no source!

elSicomoro · 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM

It appears to have been originally in the NY Times, based on my Google search.

freshnesschronic · 02-19-2008, 02:58 PM

Ah, thanks. I'm anal about sources. I'm a college kid.
Btw was it titled as white males suicide blah?

Aliantha · 02-19-2008, 03:21 PM

All these middle aged males topping themselves are just the dregs that didn't get around to doing it in their 20's in the 80's and 90's. Probably cause they were yuppies then and now they're just boring old farts. What a let down huh?

Seriously though, it's a big problem world wide, not just in the US.

R2D3 · 02-19-2008, 03:52 PM

best news i heard all week

DanaC · 02-19-2008, 04:05 PM

I still want to know why the thread is particularly focusing on record numbers of white males killing themselves when there's been a hike of 20% yet middle aged women have had a hike of 30%.

Aliantha · 02-19-2008, 04:20 PM

I think it's a bogus article lacking in facts. Well maybe not bogus, but certainly lop sided. The best thing would be to research the author and find out what particular axe is being ground.

icileparadise · 02-19-2008, 04:33 PM

These folks are commiting suicide and that's a shame. In the U.K. in one area in Wales, Brigdend I think, there is a CLUSTER (hate that fucking term) of young suicides (mostly male). What is causing it? It's tragic. Saw a film last night directed by Ridley Scott: Kings of Heaven where the dead body of a suicide was decapitated because she committed suicide upon grief of her dead baby. The religous belief being that she should be headless in hell. Just being dead is surely enough. i.e you can't touch me anymore.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-19-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

I still want to know why the thread is particularly focusing on record numbers of white males killing themselves when there's been a hike of 20% yet middle aged women have had a hike of 30%.

*sigh*

Because men are more important than woman.

Go read The Bible and get me a drink

Aliantha · 02-19-2008, 04:41 PM

lol...nice one PH.

deadbeater · 02-19-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

Why is the title of this article relating to white males? The rate of suicides amongst middle-aged men rose 20 per cent. In the article it states that rates of suicide amongst middle-aged women rose 31 per cent....so why is the thrust of this thread the rise in male suicides? Surely the bigger hike is in suicides amongst middle-aged women.

Because the writer is used to focusing many studies on White males.

icileparadise · 02-19-2008, 05:05 PM

Careful here buddies, Men do serious nasty things to women. And to themselves. And to other men. But violenece to women is unacceptable. I am in another forum here?

Clodfobble · 02-19-2008, 06:23 PM

Google seems to show that the original article from the NY Times did not focus on men, or mention them specifically at all. The original headline was "Middle-Age Suicide Rates Skyrocket." In fact, the whole first paragraph posted on this board

Quote:

White males are committing suicide in record numbers the government has learned, and they are not sure why. The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that an increase in suicides among white males has increased about 20% in the last several years and this could effect the country as a whole.

seems to be an addition by the poster. Typically the NY Times is better about proofreading their grammar, at the very least.

DanaC · 02-19-2008, 06:32 PM

That makes more sense Clod, thanks for that.

So, Joannblue: why the focus on "white males"? Given that the article you've taken it from was commenting on the increase in suicides amongst the middle-aged population generally, and showed a sharper increase in suicides amongst middle-aged women specifically.

02-19-2008, 03:21 PM	#20
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	All these middle aged males topping themselves are just the dregs that didn't get around to doing it in their 20's in the 80's and 90's. Probably cause they were yuppies then and now they're just boring old farts. What a let down huh? Seriously though, it's a big problem world wide, not just in the US. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-19-2008, 04:20 PM	#23
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I think it's a bogus article lacking in facts. Well maybe not bogus, but certainly lop sided. The best thing would be to research the author and find out what particular axe is being ground. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-19-2008, 04:41 PM	#26
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	lol...nice one PH. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-19-2008, 02:23 PM	#16
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Why is the title of this article relating to white males? The rate of suicides amongst middle-aged men rose 20 per cent. In the article it states that rates of suicide amongst middle-aged women rose 31 per cent....so why is the thrust of this thread the rise in male suicides? Surely the bigger hike is in suicides amongst middle-aged women.

02-19-2008, 02:48 PM	#17
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	where the heck did this article come from? I see no source!

02-19-2008, 02:52 PM	#18
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	It appears to have been originally in the NY Times, based on my Google search.

02-19-2008, 02:58 PM	#19
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	Ah, thanks. I'm anal about sources. I'm a college kid. Btw was it titled as white males suicide blah?

02-19-2008, 03:52 PM	#21
R2D3 buck fush Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: houston Posts: 36	best news i heard all week

02-19-2008, 04:05 PM	#22
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I still want to know why the thread is particularly focusing on record numbers of white males killing themselves when there's been a hike of 20% yet middle aged women have had a hike of 30%.

02-19-2008, 04:33 PM	#24
icileparadise Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Swiss Mountains Posts: 96	These folks are commiting suicide and that's a shame. In the U.K. in one area in Wales, Brigdend I think, there is a CLUSTER (hate that fucking term) of young suicides (mostly male). What is causing it? It's tragic. Saw a film last night directed by Ridley Scott: Kings of Heaven where the dead body of a suicide was decapitated because she committed suicide upon grief of her dead baby. The religous belief being that she should be headless in hell. Just being dead is surely enough. i.e you can't touch me anymore.

02-19-2008, 05:05 PM	#28
icileparadise Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Swiss Mountains Posts: 96	Careful here buddies, Men do serious nasty things to women. And to themselves. And to other men. But violenece to women is unacceptable. I am in another forum here?

02-19-2008, 06:32 PM	#30
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	That makes more sense Clod, thanks for that. So, Joannblue: why the focus on "white males"? Given that the article you've taken it from was commenting on the increase in suicides amongst the middle-aged population generally, and showed a sharper increase in suicides amongst middle-aged women specifically.

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