Holy Chipotle! - Page 3

glatt · 05-02-2008, 01:22 PM

Interesting to see that antibiotic free chicken advertised. I just read in the paper today that Perdue successfully sued Tyson to prevent them from advertising the fact that Tyson doesn't routinely feed antibiotics to their chickens. Perdue argued that the public might interpret that as meaning that Perdue chicken is inferior.

Why not let the consumer decide if they want to eat chicken that is routinely fed antibiotics?

LabRat · 05-02-2008, 01:23 PM

I ordered fajita steak with mild salsa. The fajita style just means you get to put green peppers and onions in it instead of beans. Except I wanted them both, so I asked for very little rice and add black beans. Still had more rice than I would have liked. I ended up scraping some out.

LabRat · 05-02-2008, 01:31 PM

Total bill, with pop and tax was $7.84.

My opionion, 3/5 stars. It was a good, huge burrito, but lacked flavor for being 'fajita' style. The peppers and onions needed red peppers, and were basically raw. The steak had heat, but again, not much *flavor.*

The covered outdoor seating area was nice. It was very clean and the condiment bar was well stocked, but we were there at 11:45, before the lunch rush. Silverware was plastic and it felt a little wasteful, considering they were so hung up about how 'healthy' their food was for you.

I prefer their competitors across the street, Panchero's. Better fajita mix, better mild salsa, and slightly cheaper too for the same amount of food. Plus they have a punch card so your 13th menu item is free.

LabRat · 05-02-2008, 01:42 PM

Oh, and one of the friends I was eating with said that while whether or not they are owned by McD's is under debate, she saw a McD's truck delivering food there a few weeks ago... There are no actual McDonald's downtown at all.

elSicomoro · 05-02-2008, 02:59 PM

I used to work down the street from a Chipotle when I lived in DC in 2000. We didn't have any in Philly when I lived there, though UT and I ate at one when we visited a friend of ours down in DC in '02.

We have a handful here in the St. Louis area...April and I ate at one last night. Not bad, but not as good as usual.

A Moe's opened up near my apartment in Philly in late '04, I think. It wasn't bad...though their hottest salsa is a creeping son-of-a-bitch! I think we have one here in St. Louis, out in the western suburbs. Haven't eaten at one since moving back here.

glatt · 05-02-2008, 03:03 PM

Never been to a Chipotle's but that burrito looks just like what you get at Burrito Brothers in DC.

Urbane Guerrilla · 05-02-2008, 03:05 PM

The thing I most enjoy about a Moe's is just walking in, when they all shout out a big hello -- "Welcome to Moe's!!" Sort of an English take on a sushi-house's "Irrashaimasen!"

But the first Moe's around here didn't catch on -- opened and closed inside a year. Maybe better luck later; their food was certainly good enough.

Urbane Guerrilla · 05-02-2008, 03:10 PM

Labrat, speaking of quite reasonably tasty, let Friend One know she has a nice figure, and Friend Two nice hair, and she shouldn't worry any too hard -- if she's concerned -- about getting herself a wedding ring like One's. (Scrolled back and looked.)

Undertoad · 05-02-2008, 03:15 PM

Mister, don't you sneak in on elspode's territory. He's the one supposed to be making those remarks.

elSicomoro · 05-02-2008, 03:35 PM

Yep...he's the Town Oversexed Lech.

dar512 · 05-02-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

Interesting to see that antibiotic free chicken advertised. I just read in the paper today that Perdue successfully sued Tyson to prevent them from advertising the fact that Tyson doesn't routinely feed antibiotics to their chickens. Perdue argued that the public might interpret that as meaning that Perdue chicken is inferior.

Why not let the consumer decide if they want to eat chicken that is routinely fed antibiotics?

Not exactly. What Perdue claimed was that Tyson's chicken wasn't really antibiotic free - false advertising.

Sundae · 05-03-2008, 04:50 AM

Excellent photo essay, Lab - thank you.
Agree re plastic cutlery, what a shame. Write them a letter!

I didn't notice your friends' figures - I was checking out their tasty treats instead.

richlevy · 05-03-2008, 09:43 AM

The nearest one is about 30 minutes from me. A few months ago I was curious and used their online ordering to work up an order for the family with the idea that I would be in the area for a pickup. When it got past some awful price I tried to cancel the process. The options (extra chips, guacamole) do add up.

Moes and Red Sombrero are close for fake Mexican. El Gran Rodeo is more authentic and close by. Mexican Post is close by. It's not authentic but a little more upscale (nice sitdown place).

richlevy · 05-03-2008, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

Interesting to see that antibiotic free chicken advertised. I just read in the paper today that Perdue successfully sued Tyson to prevent them from advertising the fact that Tyson doesn't routinely feed antibiotics to their chickens. Perdue argued that the public might interpret that as meaning that Perdue chicken is inferior.

Why not let the consumer decide if they want to eat chicken that is routinely fed antibiotics?

I heard about this on NPR. The reason Tyson lost is that the ad was misleading, as was mentioned in the article. Tyson's ad depended on a narrow interpretation of 'antibiotic' and 'raised' (see below)

What's annoying is the the FTC didn't being the action, their competitors did.

Now my state of PA did ban certain advertising on hormones in milk cows because it made others 'look bad', not because it was deceptive

. I can foresee a future trial in that decision with the state arguing that it has the right to stop a company from telling the truth. F***ing morons.

Quote:

Sanderson and Perdue initially based their legal challenge on Tyson's practice of feeding chickens ionophores, an antibiotic used only in animals raised for food. Sanderson and Perdue also use ionophores.
Then during trial in federal court in Baltimore, Tyson officials acknowledged they also inject eggs several days before they hatch with antibiotics that are approved for use in humans. Dave Hogberg, Tyson's senior vice president for consumer products, said it is a common industry practice.
Hogberg said injecting eggs with antibiotics did not undermine the "raised without antibiotic" label because the term "raised" is understood to cover the period that begins with hatching.

glatt · 05-05-2008, 08:42 AM

The interesting thing about the Tyson case was the astronomical increase in sales Tyson saw when they made their claim of raising chickens without antibiotics. It's clear what many consumers want. I'm surprised and disappointed the chicken producers don't give it to them for real.

On another note, there was a small beef supplier a couple years ago that tested 100% of its animals for mad cow disease and wanted to label their beef as Mad Cow free, but are not allowed to by the FDA (or USDA?) because it would make the rest of the beef suppliers who only test 0.1% of their animals look bad.

05-02-2008, 01:23 PM	#32
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	I ordered fajita steak with mild salsa. The fajita style just means you get to put green peppers and onions in it instead of beans. Except I wanted them both, so I asked for very little rice and add black beans. Still had more rice than I would have liked. I ended up scraping some out. Attached Images __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within. Last edited by LabRat; 05-02-2008 at 01:38 PM.

05-02-2008, 01:31 PM	#33
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	Total bill, with pop and tax was $7.84. My opionion, 3/5 stars. It was a good, huge burrito, but lacked flavor for being 'fajita' style. The peppers and onions needed red peppers, and were basically raw. The steak had heat, but again, not much flavor. The covered outdoor seating area was nice. It was very clean and the condiment bar was well stocked, but we were there at 11:45, before the lunch rush. Silverware was plastic and it felt a little wasteful, considering they were so hung up about how 'healthy' their food was for you. I prefer their competitors across the street, Panchero's. Better fajita mix, better mild salsa, and slightly cheaper too for the same amount of food. Plus they have a punch card so your 13th menu item is free. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within. Last edited by LabRat; 05-02-2008 at 01:37 PM.

05-02-2008, 01:42 PM	#34
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	Oh, and one of the friends I was eating with said that while whether or not they are owned by McD's is under debate, she saw a McD's truck delivering food there a few weeks ago... There are no actual McDonald's downtown at all. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

05-02-2008, 03:05 PM	#37
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	The thing I most enjoy about a Moe's is just walking in, when they all shout out a big hello -- "Welcome to Moe's!!" Sort of an English take on a sushi-house's "Irrashaimasen!" But the first Moe's around here didn't catch on -- opened and closed inside a year. Maybe better luck later; their food was certainly good enough. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

05-02-2008, 03:10 PM	#38
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Labrat, speaking of quite reasonably tasty, let Friend One know she has a nice figure, and Friend Two nice hair, and she shouldn't worry any too hard -- if she's concerned -- about getting herself a wedding ring like One's. (Scrolled back and looked.) __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

05-02-2008, 01:22 PM	#31
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Interesting to see that antibiotic free chicken advertised. I just read in the paper today that Perdue successfully sued Tyson to prevent them from advertising the fact that Tyson doesn't routinely feed antibiotics to their chickens. Perdue argued that the public might interpret that as meaning that Perdue chicken is inferior. Why not let the consumer decide if they want to eat chicken that is routinely fed antibiotics?

05-02-2008, 02:59 PM	#35
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I used to work down the street from a Chipotle when I lived in DC in 2000. We didn't have any in Philly when I lived there, though UT and I ate at one when we visited a friend of ours down in DC in '02. We have a handful here in the St. Louis area...April and I ate at one last night. Not bad, but not as good as usual. A Moe's opened up near my apartment in Philly in late '04, I think. It wasn't bad...though their hottest salsa is a creeping son-of-a-bitch! I think we have one here in St. Louis, out in the western suburbs. Haven't eaten at one since moving back here.

05-02-2008, 03:03 PM	#36
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Never been to a Chipotle's but that burrito looks just like what you get at Burrito Brothers in DC.

05-02-2008, 03:15 PM	#39
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Mister, don't you sneak in on elspode's territory. He's the one supposed to be making those remarks.

05-02-2008, 03:35 PM	#40
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Yep...he's the Town Oversexed Lech.

05-03-2008, 04:50 AM	#42
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Excellent photo essay, Lab - thank you. Agree re plastic cutlery, what a shame. Write them a letter! I didn't notice your friends' figures - I was checking out their tasty treats instead. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

05-03-2008, 09:43 AM	#43
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	The nearest one is about 30 minutes from me. A few months ago I was curious and used their online ordering to work up an order for the family with the idea that I would be in the area for a pickup. When it got past some awful price I tried to cancel the process. The options (extra chips, guacamole) do add up. Moes and Red Sombrero are close for fake Mexican. El Gran Rodeo is more authentic and close by. Mexican Post is close by. It's not authentic but a little more upscale (nice sitdown place). __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

05-05-2008, 08:42 AM	#45
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The interesting thing about the Tyson case was the astronomical increase in sales Tyson saw when they made their claim of raising chickens without antibiotics. It's clear what many consumers want. I'm surprised and disappointed the chicken producers don't give it to them for real. On another note, there was a small beef supplier a couple years ago that tested 100% of its animals for mad cow disease and wanted to label their beef as Mad Cow free, but are not allowed to by the FDA (or USDA?) because it would make the rest of the beef suppliers who only test 0.1% of their animals look bad.

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