The Psycology of Fear - Page 3

jimhelm · 02-16-2011, 02:11 AM

You just can't fake this kind of crazy. JBklyde is my new favorite nut bar....

Sorty, monster...you've been ousted.

Perry Winkle · 02-16-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

The comparison is about Abraham and a suicide bomber, not god and allah.

Discuss.

Abraham is a fictional character, or at least based on someone so far in the past that they are irrelevant. A suicide bomber is real and hurting other people now.

I prefer a few crazy parents (almost) murdering their children, to someone actually blowing up as many people as possible.

The suicide aspect is irrelevant.

Spexxvet · 02-16-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by plthijinx

easy. abraham was asked by God, well commanded really, to sacrifice his son. a suicide bomber is killing himself. there is a big difference. it's one thing to sacrifice yourself but to sacrifice your offspring is another. in abrahams; case he showed God that God came first. over everything and everyone.

just sayin.

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

Abraham is a fictional character, or at least based on someone so far in the past that they are irrelevant. A suicide bomber is real and hurting other people now.

I prefer a few crazy parents (almost) murdering their children, to someone actually blowing up as many people as possible.

The suicide aspect is irrelevant.

Abraham believed he was doing god's will. A suicide bomber believes he is doing god's will.

Frankly, I think they're both hallucinating crazies, but this is an entertaining philosophical discussion.

Perry Winkle · 02-16-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Abraham believed he was doing god's will. A suicide bomber believes he is doing god's will.

I usually end up doing dog's will, too. The worst I end up with is a sore arm from throwing a tennis ball for three hours.

I don't know what kind of dog Abraham and suicide bombers follow, but I hope I never find out.

Honestly, there are secular beliefs that are every bit as stupid as "obeying god's will." Humans are great at justifying irrational behavior, whether they are mentally ill or not.

JBKlyde · 02-28-2011, 01:52 PM

I'll attempt to answer the sucide bomber vs abe question.

First off abe's son did not get sacraficed. It was a test to see how serious abe really was. Kind of like a weed out coarse in college. If your going to be an engineer, they want you to be an excellent engineer.. not a half arsed lego builder. Therefore you go through certain test to see if you have what it takes. And that is what God dose is test us. He will never test us beyond our limits.

Suicde Bombers are lead astray by there leaders.. in totall annilation the code to self destruct is "control alt delete" deletleing one's self is like earseing your name off of the book of life there fore you are hell bond.

God's goal and the goal of most God fearing relegions is to go to Heaven and to take as many up with us as possible. Therefor Islam is evil for calling it's people to "cntrl alt delete" themselfves in the name of God. So is charles manson but maynson is an evil nazi not a christian.

k peash...

sexobon · 02-28-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

... First off abe's son did not get sacraficed. It was a test to see how serious abe really was. ...

But wasn't it an incomplete test? Why didn't God let Abraham kill his son and then simply resurrect Abraham's son as God is purported to have done with his own son Jesus? Does God have a convenient set of double standards ... one for his own son and another for Abraham's son?

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... And that is what God dose is test us. He will never test us beyond our limits. Suicde Bombers are lead astray by there leaders ...

Does that imply God was afraid that Abraham would, in hindsight, have changed his mind about following God if Abraham had actually killed for him? That's not a problem with suicide bombers; so, maybe they're just God's Test 2.0 (new and improved).

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... deletleing one's self is like earseing your name off of the book of life there fore you are hell bond. ...

God is entitled to change His mind about that to suit the times we live in.

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... Islam is evil for calling it's people to "cntrl alt delete" themselfves in the name of God. ...

Yet without evil there'd be no martyrs. God moves in mysterious ways ... who are you to second guess Him.

JBKlyde · 03-01-2011, 12:19 PM

Can the pot say to the potter why did you create me like this.. dose the potter not have the right to make some pots for noble purposes and some to just crush???

Shawnee123 · 03-01-2011, 12:19 PM

did someone mention pot?

monster · 03-01-2011, 12:23 PM

potentially

monster · 03-01-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

Can the pot say to the potter why did you create me like this.. dose the potter not have the right to make some pots for noble purposes and some to just crush???

Sweetheart, that's not really the pot talking, you know. Well not the ceramic pot anyway. Pots can't talk. They don't have vocal chords or tongues. Do you think you might enjoy a nice lie down?

Sundae · 03-01-2011, 12:32 PM

Hang on, is this about Voldemog?

sexobon · 03-03-2011, 01:44 AM

I just wanted to see how long it would take him to go from actually answering a question to answering a question with a question. It took only one iteration: his shit is weak.

JBKlyde · 03-04-2011, 02:31 PM

It's not weak it's just that God gave us the Bible to Learn from and your twisting it like you have the right to rewright it. I choose not to enguage any further into that cokkamania.

ZenGum · 03-04-2011, 06:16 PM

Dude, the bible is a collection of the folk legends of ancient middle-eastern tribes, nothing more. It is interesting from a cultural anthropological point of view, but taking it as literally true is nuts.

Don't you dare dispute this. This post is a revelation from the almighty. And because this post tells you this post is a revelation from the almighty, you'd better not question it. Got it?

footfootfoot · 03-04-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Loves The Cellar. You never know what you're going to get. I was hoping for a discussion of deBecker's The Gift of Fear.

http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php...34r#post297634

02-16-2011, 02:11 AM	#31
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	You just can't fake this kind of crazy. JBklyde is my new favorite nut bar.... Sorty, monster...you've been ousted. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

03-01-2011, 12:19 PM	#38
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	did someone mention pot? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-01-2011, 12:23 PM	#39
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	potentially __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-04-2011, 06:16 PM	#44
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Dude, the bible is a collection of the folk legends of ancient middle-eastern tribes, nothing more. It is interesting from a cultural anthropological point of view, but taking it as literally true is nuts. Don't you dare dispute this. This post is a revelation from the almighty. And because this post tells you this post is a revelation from the almighty, you'd better not question it. Got it? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

02-28-2011, 01:52 PM	#35
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	I'll attempt to answer the sucide bomber vs abe question. First off abe's son did not get sacraficed. It was a test to see how serious abe really was. Kind of like a weed out coarse in college. If your going to be an engineer, they want you to be an excellent engineer.. not a half arsed lego builder. Therefore you go through certain test to see if you have what it takes. And that is what God dose is test us. He will never test us beyond our limits. Suicde Bombers are lead astray by there leaders.. in totall annilation the code to self destruct is "control alt delete" deletleing one's self is like earseing your name off of the book of life there fore you are hell bond. God's goal and the goal of most God fearing relegions is to go to Heaven and to take as many up with us as possible. Therefor Islam is evil for calling it's people to "cntrl alt delete" themselfves in the name of God. So is charles manson but maynson is an evil nazi not a christian. k peash...

03-01-2011, 12:32 PM	#41
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Hang on, is this about Voldemog?

03-03-2011, 01:44 AM	#42
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	I just wanted to see how long it would take him to go from actually answering a question to answering a question with a question. It took only one iteration: his shit is weak.

03-04-2011, 02:31 PM	#43
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	It's not weak it's just that God gave us the Bible to Learn from and your twisting it like you have the right to rewright it. I choose not to enguage any further into that cokkamania.

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