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Old 08-21-2007, 01:36 PM   #46
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tw - I have tried, in vain, to make peace with you - I have posted numerous times my thoughts, opinions and YES my feelings.
I have no idea what those peace offerings are. Again you were not attacked. Why do you take insult again where none exists? If you cannot acknowledge your previous meltdown over mythical insults , then you will always view posted facts as personal attacks. You had a meltdown over something that did not exist. That was the reality.

Yesman065 viewed a school bus with a perspective. Then took insult when another contrasted his perspective with the bigger picture. Those are the facts. Get over it. You had a meltdown over insults that only existed in your head; that did not exist anywhere in the post. Are you going to meltdown again - or learn from assumed insults that did not exist? I have no idea what constitute peace offerings. You had a meltdown over a post that was only a constrast of perspectives. Those are the facts. Get over it.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:40 PM   #47
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:40 PM   #48
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Let's have a contest to see who can use the word "meltdown" the most times in one post. Ready? Go!
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:44 PM   #49
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Go take your medication tw - tw is totally irrational - yesman proved repeatedly what tw did and tw istoo small a man to admit it. What little credibility tw had here, evaporated with tw's inability to admit when tw was wrong - AGAIN. tw did it six months ago and tw just did it again.

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Old 08-21-2007, 01:59 PM   #50
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:11 PM   #51
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Greatest bag on tw...ever.
It was nicely done.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:16 PM   #52
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I have no idea what those peace offerings are. Again you were not attacked. Why do you take insult again where none exists? If you cannot acknowledge your previous meltdown over mythical insults , then you will always view posted facts as personal attacks. You had a meltdown over something that did not exist. That was the reality.
Yesman065 viewed a school bus with a perspective. Then took insult when another contrasted his perspective with the bigger picture. Those are the facts. Get over it. You had a meltdown over insults that only existed in your head; that did not exist anywhere in the post. Are you going to meltdown again - or learn from assumed insults that did not exist? I have no idea what constitute peace offerings. You had a meltdown over a post that was only a constrast of perspectives. Those are the facts. Get over it.

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So how did you get those children off and taken care of - since you worry about things relevant? Those in MN responded accordingly. Why do you associate yourself with them?
I made no effort to solve any problem. I simply posted a link to which tw chose to attack me in post #8. Because I am a compassionate human.

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That definitely was not Yesman065 who would somehow save children by worrying?
I never said I was going to save anyone by worrying about them. It is NORMAL to be concerned with the welfare of others though, and to express that concern. tw constantly claims that he does not read into others posts or make assumptions about that which may have been implied, reading only the words one has written. Why would tw assume that anyone was trying to save a child when all I did was post a link to an article with absolutely no opinion posted. And yet again an example of how tw reads into others posts that which was not written - Why does tw constantly tend to read into statements things which do not exist. Please refer to the original post in this thread for IRONCLAD proof. Contrastly, tw feels compelled to criticize others if/when they appear to have done the same?

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Whereas you were concerned with details you could do nothing about, instead, I was more concerned with the bigger picture - and things I might be able to accomplish.
INCORRECT - I was not concerned with details at all. I VERY SIMPLY posted a link, nothing more nothing less. I had not intent at that time to solve any problems jump out the door and examine any bridges. tw seems to not be able to grasp this concept even though he has been repeatedly told. Why does tw continue to assume every post is about what HE thinks it is about instead of recognizing that other people post for their own reasons? All claims of superior thought through logical emotionless conclusions would not be made were it not for the underlying emotional need for said change or improvement to take place. One can only assume that posting dispassionately lets tw feel he is somehow greater or better or in some way superior. That tw's posts are intentionally devoid of any feeling has no bearing nor does it lend any credibility to his posts. This is a further example of how tw reads into posts that which is not there. Why tw? Why does tw see things that do not exist? What is it tw has accomplished by attacking yesman? Has tw accomplished anything since this bridge collapsed? has tw taken any action? Take notice - that information is conveniently lacking from tw's posts.

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Your offer was simple. You stopped posting attacks and the only time I demonstrated what an insult really looks like then stopped - just as I stated. See how easy it works?
No, not really, the veil has been removed and the seething ridicule is now out in the open. For example see post # 8 where tw completely unprovoked in any way shape or form reads into a link that which does not exist and attacks yesman without any cause whatsoever. The demeaning TONE, yes there is a tone in the written word, which tw used was completely uncalled for. I made an offer to you for an end of your attacks and my counterattacks so that the cellar would not have to deal with this issue in ever thread where you choose to attack me. Furthermore, I created a thread specifically for tw to express his feelings, if any, attack me if tw wished or to reach a compromise. tw chose none of them - What we are left with is a "cesspool of wanker logic." {tm tw} The offer was apparently not simple enough for tw. tw could not even be man enough to respond to said offer in the appropriate place. Why is that? Why is it that tw is unable or unwilling to act accordingly when an offer for peace was made? Highly illogical for one who purports logical superiority.

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Yesman065 worries about kids he can do nothing for (and calls that responsible action?)
yesman (now you have me referring to myself in the third person) - very strange indeed - will repeat himself again. It seems that tw must believe that if the same incorrect point is repeatedly stated enough times will somehow will it to validity. No it will not. A most serious illogical transgression. No matter how many times an incorrect assumption is repeated it shall forever remain incorrect. yesman posted a link - nothing more, nothing less. yesman had no intention whatsoever at that time to solve any problems nor examine any bridges. tw seems to not be able to grasp this concept even though he has been repeatedly told this. yesman made no effort to imply nor intended to determine a responsible course of action. That is another attempt by tw to make another erroneous claim completely unfounded and without basis. Why tw? Why does tw see things that do not exist?

yesman would like to take this opportunity to state that he was concerned about the traumatic events of that evening and would like to express his concern for the well being of the children on that school bus. Additionally, yesman would like to express his thankfulness to his God that they are all physically ok. Nothing more nothing less. There was never any attempt to examine any other bridges nor did yesman make any claims to have done so.
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The minute that bridge collapsed, our immediate concern was why and what other school buses are at risk. For example, how many bridges of that design exist in your county? Three exist in MN. Did you know that? Do you know those answers that are very much relevant if concerned for the safety of your peers? Why not?
Those questions are not yesman's to ask. yesman is not in the field of engineering, however if yesman were to derive that information it would do yesman little good to know that information. Therefore that displays another illogical question derived on faulty logic which deserves no reply. How much time did tw spend to accrue that useless information? If that information becomes useful what is tw going to do with it? Has tw done anything constructive to address whatever situation tw has determined is in need? What tw, what would yesman or any other reader do with such information? Perhaps yesman could call his congressman and express his concern for the children in his area. Does yesman need that information to do that? yesman thinks not. In fact, yesman has already emailed and called his local representative to express his concerns about bridges in his area. Has tw done the same? Has tw taken any action? tw has offered no solutions, no ideas, in fact all tw has offered is long winded posts questioning others feelings and opinions. Hardly a prudent course of action. What tw, what logic was this course of action you have chosen based upon? tell us what tw has done to increase the safety of the children who ride school buses near tw. Perhaps tw is not concerned enough about the children in tw's area to take action himself? yesman does not know as tw has not offered any constructive information on the subject.

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Maybe you worry about things that cannot be solved. So tell us. How many bridges in your area have the same non-redundant design? Did you ask? Is anyone? Or do we simply wait for another school bus to fall?
OMG - again? My fingers hurt from repeating myself ad nauseum - should you, at this point, still need and answer to these questions than you are beyond help.

In conclusion, yesman recognized a need and took the appropriate action (calling his representatives) whereas tw has simply chosen to attack other posters feelings and opinions - hardly logical nor constructive.

Why does tw find it necessary to attack others when no attack was initially made nor implied?

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Old 08-21-2007, 02:30 PM   #53
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What Yesman065 calls an attack:
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Demonstrated is a difference between what yesman065 saw and what I saw. That yellow school bus: time to worry about it was long ago when this failure was predictable. Whereas contents of that bus were immediate concern to those on the bridge, instead, the rest of us should be worrying about all school busses.
Dude. Do you also get upset when someone looks at you wrong? Dude. Its not entertaining watching you make a fool of yourself. Get over it. You took insult where none existed.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:34 PM   #54
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Greatest bag on tw...ever.
Freaking brilliant. Except it makes more sense than his posts.

There is an industry related board that I frequent and there is a horrible little troll that lives there with a posting style very similar to our resident's. The only subject that this troll can go on about is how financial advisors are secretly the devil in disguise. He frequently uses the terms "mental midget", "where the work gets done", and rails on his perception of other posters emotional state.

Hmmm.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:41 PM   #55
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Greatest bag on tw...ever.
It's so perfect... builds to such a crescendo. And he hasn't changed a bit, not a single bit, in six years.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:29 PM   #56
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It's so perfect... builds to such a crescendo. And he hasn't changed a bit, not a single bit, in six years.
Why should he? Remember the so few who had respect for American troops as to say George Jr was lying. That resulted by ignoring popular held beliefs, eliminating reasons justified by fears and emotion, and going after the irrefutable facts. Why change what works? Should I entertain my emotions - which promote intolerance?

Return to an earlier post that demonstrated how tw steps back and sees a same event completely different:
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Demonstrated is a difference between what yesman065 saw and what I saw. That yellow school bus: time to worry about it was long ago when this failure was predictable. Whereas contents of that bus were immediate concern to those on the bridge, instead, the rest of us should be worrying about all school busses.
So where is that an insult of yesman065? Did he see only posted sentences or did he entertain his emotions to see what was not posted?

I never apologize for conflict created because the other took offense due to emotionally based assumptions. Nobody should. yesman065 took offense at something that did not exist apparently because he did what children and racists also do - entertain their emotions. Now look at that sentence. It was intentionally written that way. Read it again. What did I just do? Did I call yesman065 a child or a racist? Yes if you entertain your emotions. No if you look at that sentence as it was intended - just blunt facts. For those who still cannot see it: tw never said yesman065 is a racist or a child. Obviously. But I must post this expecting yesman065 to impose his emotions into that sentence - to assume I called him a child or a racist. Demonstrated again is the point.

Why did tw so accurately defend the troops when so many so hated America as to believe myths and lies about Saddam? You can see it in that post that contrasted and compared the difference between what yesman065 saw and what tw saw. Notice how yesman065 saw things in that post that were not posted, and were not implied. He applies his own biases to assume facts that did not exist and that were not even intended. It says much about him.

Same applies in this thread. Lookout123 is upset because of a fact he does not dispute. Stock brokers tend to underperform the market by maybe 1%. That makes lookout123 mad. Apparently he applies his emotions to instead see "Lookout123 underperforms the market by 1%." But that was not posted, was it?

Is it my fault that he sees that? Not for one minute. It demonstrates a point I make repeatedly. People get mad and post insults when their emotions cannot grasp, change, or dispute facts.

Ibram - based on your posts, you more than anyone else should appreciate how how some denyperspectives that are unpopular - sometimes with insult. People get angry - entertain conclusions based in emotion - when you are not 'one of them' or state things they cannot emotionally grasp. Well I am not one of 'them'. I routinely stand back and look for larger and alternative perspectives - the refutable fact.

One fact that makes lookout123 so angry: stock brokers average a 1% underperformance. Lookout123 apparently takes it so personal as if it says, "HE underperforms the market". He should be acknowledging how many of his peers don't do a good job. He doesn't. Instead he takes personal offense of a fact that is not a statement about him.

Some people have difficulty emotionally dealing with facts; instead personalize things as yessman065 did. Ibram - your own posts say your peers have trouble with your lifestyle perspectives. Why? Are you a threat to anyone? Depends on whether they acknowledge you for who you are - or do as yesman065 has done here - apply his personal biases. Appreciate why some remain distant from you. Many people just fear anything contrarian because they cannot get beyond their emotion biases.

If you don't understand, well fine. However from your posts, I would expect you to understand tolerance far better than yesman065 or lookout123. Both even take insult where no such insult existed apparently because they have not learned to stop personalizing - therefore are less tolerant and easily angered. Lookout123 so dislikes that stock brokers underperform the market by 1% as to take personal insult. He apparently assumes that was directed at him. It clearly and obviously was not. But decisions based in emotions are the foundation of intolerance. Same reason why yesman065 assumed he was being attacked when obviously no such attack existed. Same reason would explain why some people just cannot get along with you. Its not you. Some poeple routinely entertain their emotions rather then see reality. Yesman065 saw insult where none obviously exists.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:21 PM   #57
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Oh almight tw - the one and only so full of statements
and talk without action. Have you once responded to my post directed specifically to you, or answered the questions
put to YOU?
Unlike an ASSHOLE
who only claims TW
to have not insulted, yet when shown he has, still ignores the reality
of that which has been proven repeatedly. Shall I post them all
again so you can ignore them and act as if nothing happened?
Should I waste my time?
Are you worth it?
Are you man enough to realize that most of us here are smart and
can to read between the lines, TW.
Surely you can see that only a COWARD
word attempt to ignore the facts when he was wrong. It takes a real
man to take responsiblity for his actions, apologize and move on.

edit* Is there an attack in the above text?

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Old 08-22-2007, 09:39 PM   #58
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:50 PM   #59
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Ibram - based on your posts, you more than anyone else should appreciate how how some denyperspectives that are unpopular - sometimes with insult. People get angry - entertain conclusions based in emotion - when you are not 'one of them' or state things they cannot emotionally grasp. Well I am not one of 'them'. I routinely stand back and look for larger and alternative perspectives - the refutable fact.
What's that s'posed to mean?
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:02 PM   #60
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What's that s'posed to mean?

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