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toranokaze · 05-24-2013, 02:31 AM

I would sink that thing.

Griff · 05-24-2013, 05:58 AM

I like the concept but wonder if that is really the right material? I suppose its UV protected so it may not get brittle right away. I can't picture it handling the normal use rock hits and scrapes. Maybe my normal use isn't normal.

ZenGum · 05-24-2013, 06:59 AM

So long as it comes with a few rolls of duct tape, all should be well.

footfootfoot · 05-24-2013, 07:12 AM

I have friends who've built a number of houses and out building using cordwood and strawbale construction. They will swear up and down that it is the best, cheapest, quickest way to make a building. While those building have many merits, best, cheapest, and quickest aren't among them.

If that were true, no one would be stick framing houses any longer. There's a reason conventional framing hasn't changed much in a couple of hundred years.

glatt · 05-24-2013, 07:38 AM

Have you ever seen the crates they use at the Post Office? They are made of the same corrugated plastic. It's very durable and lightweight stuff. Those crates get kicked or dragged across concrete floors while full of packages. Next time you see one, look at the bottom corners for wear and imagine the constant abuse they get.

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footfootfoot · 05-24-2013, 08:37 AM

But what is the life expectancy of one of those crates? Although you see them all the time I don't think you are seeing the same crate for very long.

They are cool and all, but I don't think they will last nearly as long as another kayak conventionally built at the same price. Great to have in your trunk for impromptu kayaking though, I think that's where these certainly shine, not to compete with car toppers.

glatt · 05-24-2013, 09:07 AM

Actually, I think they are competing directly with Folbot, which is a foldable skin on frame style of kayak. I think they are probably better than Folbot because they are slightly lighter and much cheaper and much less complicated to assemble. The Folbot Kiawah seems to be the closest match, and it's $1,449. Check out the Folbot assembly videos. Assembly of a Folboat is really pretty involved.

Durability is a big question mark. I think in 5 years there will be enough data to know if these are any good.

Lamplighter · 05-24-2013, 11:12 AM

We bought our (17 ft) Folbot in 1975 for about $600,
and it's still in use each year... on lakes and "calm" rivers.

The current models have improvements on weight and
ease of assembly, but ours fits in the 2 bags shown in this pic.

glatt · 05-24-2013, 11:43 AM

That's cool! How do you like it?

Lamplighter · 05-24-2013, 12:15 PM

Obviously, we do like it...

The link you posted for the video of assembly of the Greenland model shows the main problem
... it is somewhat complicated and time-consuming.
Ours is sort of heavy and awkward, and it's easier for 2 people to share the carrying of the two bags.

Cross winds are the biggest issue in actual use.
The newer models have rudders (optional ?), but not ours.
Otherwise, we feel the wide bottom makes it a very safe craft.

But we still never allow a kid to take it out without an adult,
It has never been overturned in the water, even during the few battles of "water-warfare".

Gravdigr · 07-12-2013, 03:17 PM

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Am I the only one seeing the word 'Gacy' in the Gay Bob logo? +5 for creepy.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-12-2013, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Cross winds are the biggest issue in actual use.
The newer models have rudders (optional ?), but not ours.
Otherwise, we feel the wide bottom makes it a very safe craft.

could you add a side-board for open water?

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Lamplighter · 07-13-2013, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

could you add a side-board for open water?

xoB, actually I think there is such an accessory for the newer models.

But OTOH, Folbots were used in the Artic and by the German military,
and elsewhere around the world in earlier days, so they do go most anywhere, even built as mine.

ZenGum · 07-17-2013, 07:11 AM

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05-24-2013, 02:31 AM	#601
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	I would sink that thing. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

05-24-2013, 05:58 AM	#602
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I like the concept but wonder if that is really the right material? I suppose its UV protected so it may not get brittle right away. I can't picture it handling the normal use rock hits and scrapes. Maybe my normal use isn't normal. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-24-2013, 06:59 AM	#603
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	So long as it comes with a few rolls of duct tape, all should be well. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

05-24-2013, 07:12 AM	#604
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I have friends who've built a number of houses and out building using cordwood and strawbale construction. They will swear up and down that it is the best, cheapest, quickest way to make a building. While those building have many merits, best, cheapest, and quickest aren't among them. If that were true, no one would be stick framing houses any longer. There's a reason conventional framing hasn't changed much in a couple of hundred years. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-24-2013, 08:37 AM	#606
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	But what is the life expectancy of one of those crates? Although you see them all the time I don't think you are seeing the same crate for very long. They are cool and all, but I don't think they will last nearly as long as another kayak conventionally built at the same price. Great to have in your trunk for impromptu kayaking though, I think that's where these certainly shine, not to compete with car toppers. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-24-2013, 07:38 AM	#605
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Have you ever seen the crates they use at the Post Office? They are made of the same corrugated plastic. It's very durable and lightweight stuff. Those crates get kicked or dragged across concrete floors while full of packages. Next time you see one, look at the bottom corners for wear and imagine the constant abuse they get.

05-24-2013, 09:07 AM	#607
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Actually, I think they are competing directly with Folbot, which is a foldable skin on frame style of kayak. I think they are probably better than Folbot because they are slightly lighter and much cheaper and much less complicated to assemble. The Folbot Kiawah seems to be the closest match, and it's $1,449. Check out the Folbot assembly videos. Assembly of a Folboat is really pretty involved. Durability is a big question mark. I think in 5 years there will be enough data to know if these are any good.

05-24-2013, 11:12 AM	#608
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	We bought our (17 ft) Folbot in 1975 for about $600, and it's still in use each year... on lakes and "calm" rivers. The current models have improvements on weight and ease of assembly, but ours fits in the 2 bags shown in this pic. Attached Images

05-24-2013, 11:43 AM	#609
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	That's cool! How do you like it?

05-24-2013, 12:15 PM	#610
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Obviously, we do like it... The link you posted for the video of assembly of the Greenland model shows the main problem ... it is somewhat complicated and time-consuming. Ours is sort of heavy and awkward, and it's easier for 2 people to share the carrying of the two bags. Cross winds are the biggest issue in actual use. The newer models have rudders (optional ?), but not ours. Otherwise, we feel the wide bottom makes it a very safe craft. But we still never allow a kid to take it out without an adult, It has never been overturned in the water, even during the few battles of "water-warfare".

07-12-2013, 03:17 PM	#611
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07-17-2013, 07:11 AM	#615
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	http://www.amazon.com/Cunt-Coloring-.../dp/0867193719 Make sure to read the reviews. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

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