Stealing - Page 5

classicman · 10-06-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie

The camera was instituted to catch a thief in the act. To pretend that it is now for the other employees' safety is disingenuous, at best.

Not pretending anything, if you read my post above yours it can have multiple uses. Nothing disingenuous about that, is there? Exactly what is it you have against her protecting her investment in this business from thieves both inside and/or outside the company?

Pie · 10-06-2008, 04:17 PM

Classic, let's agree to disagree. I know I would find it difficult to be a customer in such an establishment. You would feel safer, it seems.
There can be no meeting of the minds here.

sweetwater · 10-06-2008, 04:50 PM

Individuals may prefer a business environment with no CCTVs. Businesses may prefer one where every action and transaction of employees is monitored and filmed. All we really know is that if there was no video surveillance many of the programs on Fox and Spike would be canceled due to lack of new material.

Trilby · 10-06-2008, 05:44 PM

I like the kick her in the cunt idea. go for that.

classicman · 10-06-2008, 06:15 PM

Pie - I'm willing to agree to disagree - Lord knows it wouldn't be the first time, but please let me ask you this. Do you go to a bank or a 7-11 or any other convenience store, a department store, a Home Depot or Lowe's, a supermarket of virtually any kind or ever use an ATM? If so, I really do not understand the difference. All of the aforementioned have cctv systems in place.

I am trying to see your point here and for whatever reason - perhaps I'm just that dense - I'm not getting it. What exactly is the negative to Ducks protecting her interests and possibly her employees from theft, false accusation via accident or any other malicious intent from internal or external individuals? This could simply be viewed as prevention for a situation much like that which has already occurred.

Aliantha · 10-06-2008, 06:37 PM

If I were in Duck's position, this recent situation would have been a bit of a wake up call I suspect. The simple fact is, that there are dishonest people all over the place. Sure there are plenty more honest people, but when it all comes down to it, we've probably all been caught out by someone we trusted at some stage in our lives.

As a business owner, she can't claim her (larger) losses on tax or insurance if she has no evidence that her losses weren't soley out of her control. Having a security camera on the till in future is a wise investment and I'd recommend it. Along with detering staff from putting sticky fingers in the till, it might just deter a real live robbery.

HungLikeJesus · 10-06-2008, 06:47 PM

There's also the chance that one's spouse is cheating, so do you have video cameras hidden in your bedroom?

Aliantha · 10-06-2008, 06:51 PM

Well, sometimes there's a camera in the room...but it's not hidden.

jinx · 10-06-2008, 07:55 PM

I for one cannot wait until Nov 4th, so that everyfuckingthing, including theft mitigation options in another fucking country will no longer have to be argued from a liberal/conservative perspective. Jesus fucking christ on a popcicle stick.

Aliantha · 10-06-2008, 08:27 PM

What makes you think there'll be any difference in the way things are discussed on the cellar.org after the 4th of Nov? Do you really think it'll make much difference regardless of who wins?

DucksNuts · 10-06-2008, 09:05 PM

*sigh* its not getting any better...I'm tempted to sack them all and start again.

We are having a meeting tonite to talk about things that are shitting everybody.

Re: the camera, the girls are *really* edgy at the moment, and feeling particularly hen picked, which wont be any better after tonite....apparently the time from 9-10 am is for breakfast that you didnt have at home and to apply your make-up

so I wont be doing anything with it at this stage.

Horse dude and I can probably make use of it

classicman · 10-06-2008, 09:59 PM

This may have been a symptom of a larger problem. Perhaps a resh start may be a good idea. I wish you well either way.

ZenGum · 10-06-2008, 11:31 PM

Sack 'em all, turn the place into a brothel, and rehire them at a 20% pay cut.
They've been screwing you, time they did some screwing FOR you.

Pie · 10-07-2008, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx

I for one cannot wait until Nov 4th, so that everyfuckingthing, including theft mitigation options in another fucking country will no longer have to be argued from a liberal/conservative perspective. Jesus fucking christ on a popcicle stick.

That's why I haven't been responding full-out to cm, for what it's worth.I'm fed up with the talking-head mentality too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie

Nevermind, classic. I should remember never to poke the conservatives.

CM's on my ignore list, mmm'kay?

monster · 10-07-2008, 08:44 AM

lots of cunts to kick -lots of shoes to replace....

10-06-2008, 04:17 PM	#62
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Classic, let's agree to disagree. I know I would find it difficult to be a customer in such an establishment. You would feel safer, it seems. There can be no meeting of the minds here. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

10-06-2008, 04:50 PM	#63
sweetwater lives inside a Mobius strip Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,120	Individuals may prefer a business environment with no CCTVs. Businesses may prefer one where every action and transaction of employees is monitored and filmed. All we really know is that if there was no video surveillance many of the programs on Fox and Spike would be canceled due to lack of new material. __________________ I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque! - Bugs Bunny

10-06-2008, 05:44 PM	#64
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I like the kick her in the cunt idea. go for that. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-06-2008, 06:15 PM	#65
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Pie - I'm willing to agree to disagree - Lord knows it wouldn't be the first time, but please let me ask you this. Do you go to a bank or a 7-11 or any other convenience store, a department store, a Home Depot or Lowe's, a supermarket of virtually any kind or ever use an ATM? If so, I really do not understand the difference. All of the aforementioned have cctv systems in place. I am trying to see your point here and for whatever reason - perhaps I'm just that dense - I'm not getting it. What exactly is the negative to Ducks protecting her interests and possibly her employees from theft, false accusation via accident or any other malicious intent from internal or external individuals? This could simply be viewed as prevention for a situation much like that which has already occurred. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-06-2008, 06:37 PM	#66
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	If I were in Duck's position, this recent situation would have been a bit of a wake up call I suspect. The simple fact is, that there are dishonest people all over the place. Sure there are plenty more honest people, but when it all comes down to it, we've probably all been caught out by someone we trusted at some stage in our lives. As a business owner, she can't claim her (larger) losses on tax or insurance if she has no evidence that her losses weren't soley out of her control. Having a security camera on the till in future is a wise investment and I'd recommend it. Along with detering staff from putting sticky fingers in the till, it might just deter a real live robbery. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-06-2008, 06:47 PM	#67
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	There's also the chance that one's spouse is cheating, so do you have video cameras hidden in your bedroom? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

10-06-2008, 06:51 PM	#68
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well, sometimes there's a camera in the room...but it's not hidden. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-06-2008, 07:55 PM	#69
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I for one cannot wait until Nov 4th, so that everyfuckingthing, including theft mitigation options in another fucking country will no longer have to be argued from a liberal/conservative perspective. Jesus fucking christ on a popcicle stick. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

10-06-2008, 08:27 PM	#70
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	What makes you think there'll be any difference in the way things are discussed on the cellar.org after the 4th of Nov? Do you really think it'll make much difference regardless of who wins? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-06-2008, 09:05 PM	#71
DucksNuts Bitchy Little Brat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,067	sigh its not getting any better...I'm tempted to sack them all and start again. We are having a meeting tonite to talk about things that are shitting everybody. Re: the camera, the girls are really edgy at the moment, and feeling particularly hen picked, which wont be any better after tonite....apparently the time from 9-10 am is for breakfast that you didnt have at home and to apply your make-up so I wont be doing anything with it at this stage. Horse dude and I can probably make use of it

10-06-2008, 09:59 PM	#72
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	This may have been a symptom of a larger problem. Perhaps a resh start may be a good idea. I wish you well either way. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-06-2008, 11:31 PM	#73
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Sack 'em all, turn the place into a brothel, and rehire them at a 20% pay cut. They've been screwing you, time they did some screwing FOR you. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

10-07-2008, 08:44 AM	#75
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	lots of cunts to kick -lots of shoes to replace.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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