03-16-2012, 09:21 PM | #91 |
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three cheers for cheeriness!
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03-17-2012, 06:56 AM | #92 |
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It is becoming that, which is really pissing off the locals who are not party to the dispute.
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03-17-2012, 10:30 AM | #93 |
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We're gonna frack in Ohio.
We're gonna frack it but, *good*
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03-17-2012, 03:00 PM | #94 |
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Cabot Oil and Gas are coming,
We're finally on our own. This summer I hear the drilling, Four fracked in Ohio. Gotta get down to it Frackers are cutting us down Should have been done long ago. What if your water left you dead on the ground How can you drink when you know? Gotta get down to it Frackers are cutting us down Should have been done long ago. What if your water left you dead on the ground How can you drink when you know? Cabot Oil and Gas are coming, We're finally on our own. This summer I hear the drilling, Four fracked in Ohio.
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03-17-2012, 06:04 PM | #95 |
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We can Frack if we want to
We can frack your farm's behind Cuase your farms don't frack and if they don't frack they're no farms of mine
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03-17-2012, 06:57 PM | #96 |
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How can we frack when our earth is turning
How do we frack while our faucet's burning How can we frack when our earth is turning How do we frack while our faucet's burning
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03-17-2012, 07:02 PM | #97 |
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I wanna frack you like an animal!
I want to drill you from the inside I wanna frack you like an animal! My whole aquifer is flawed You get me closer to Gawd.
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03-19-2012, 11:15 AM | #99 | |
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Taking lease money from fracking companies may seem like a good deal... (right now).
But when these property owners go to sell or refinance, they suddenly may wish they had paid more attention to the warning signs. Neighbors should be talking with one another about what is going on in their area, including this policy development.... NY Times IAN URBINA March 18, 2012 Mortgages for Drilling Properties May Face Hurdle Quote:
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03-19-2012, 12:26 PM | #101 |
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I do... but only for what it's worth in the exact wording of the EPA statements.
I have not seen this EPA report, but I read somewhere that they were testing only for certain specific fracking-additives in the ground water. For those tests, I would believe the specific data values obtained and those values being below EPA's "maximum allowable limits". This would then allow EPA to state their tests "did not show levels of contamination that could present a health concern." This statement does not say the values were zero or non-detectable Beyond that, there might be additives for which EPA did not test, or toxic levels that are below the limits EPA now considers to be safe. Likewise, they may not have tested all appropriate water sources. (The unknown boogeyman argument.) I feel EPA is generally what you want in a governmental agency. That is, their actions are based heavily on scientific sampling, testing and lab assays, etc. From my experience interacting with EPA , they are pretty "unbiased". Also, they are subject to public hearings and inputs, so there is a "real world" link in their actions. Compared with agencies (such as the Dept of Agriculture) that have missions "to promote...", I put EPA at a pretty high level of authenticity. Industry and business don't always have the same opinions of EPA. Remember the politicians who pledged to voters they would "get rid of EPA" ? The other side of industry is, if EPA says it's OK then it's OK, regardless of some lab data values being above zero. |
03-19-2012, 05:21 PM | #102 |
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Not with great depth in an election year. They (DEP and EPA) are, however, our only option so I hope their decisions are based on the best science. Like lamp I rate them higher than whoring agencies like Dept of Ag.
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03-20-2012, 08:12 PM | #103 |
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MIT study I never saw before. Too tired to read tonight.
http://www.slideshare.net/MarcellusD...of-natural-gas
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This came up on my news feed.
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06-17-2012, 11:34 PM | #105 |
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Meh. Very glad that Vermont's banned that shit. I actually interviewed for a job with/had an observation day the other day with VPIRG, the VT public interest research group, who were instrumental in getting that legislation passed.
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