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waht have you lost?
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08-01-2008, 03:21 AM | #107 |
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What have you lost, lumberjim? Freedom and control of your life, that's all. The purpose of religion is control.
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08-01-2008, 11:41 AM | #108 | |
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If we think instead of the animating spark of life within us as a small part of a complete, singular universe, then the very idea of our individuality becomes a matter of biological constraints. These counstraints would be undone upon our death, and therefore any illusion of individuality. We would go to heaven not as individual souls travelling to a cosmic vacation resort, but rather upon our physical death we would simply rejoin the universe we temporarily forgot that we were a part of all along. At that point, concepts like "free will" no longer have any meaning.
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08-01-2008, 12:21 PM | #109 |
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There is no "I" in heaven.
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08-01-2008, 01:11 PM | #110 | |
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<-----------ooooo.....12k! damn.
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08-01-2008, 02:46 PM | #111 |
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who's talking about religion? i was talking about faith.
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08-01-2008, 07:44 PM | #112 |
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I love this question... it just cuts right thru all the bullshit.
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08-02-2008, 10:20 AM | #114 |
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Oh hell, don't let that stop you. Everyone else is speculating about something they know nothing about.
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08-03-2008, 01:46 PM | #116 | |
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Or the other view is that we are sentient. That our consciousness is influenced by our bodies, but is separate from our bodies, and that we can make choices independent from the influences of our bodies. |
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08-03-2008, 07:10 PM | #118 |
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08-04-2008, 09:43 AM | #119 | |
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Now, in order to claim that the human mind is a result of "magical" or "supernatural" qualities (which there is no way of avoiding if you want to claim that we are not a result of the same mundane natural laws that produce everything else) one must assume an attitude of supremely self-satisfied, human-centric egotism.
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08-04-2008, 09:54 AM | #120 |
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not magic. abstract. the mind exists in abstraction. the brain exists in nature.
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