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Old 11-03-2011, 06:35 AM   #106
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Checked bags at the Austin airport all pass through a machine which is somehow supposed to detect the presence of any type of explosive powder or even residue.
Which should have detected the ammunition in the gun, shouldn't it?
(I know, different airport)
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:12 AM   #107
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The conclusion:
Sunday morning news shows do the most to help people learn about current events,
while some outlets, especially Fox News, lead people to be even less informed than
those who they don’t watch any news at all.


Some news...
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:40 AM   #108
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Exposure to Sunday morning news shows helps respondents on this question:
seeing these programs leads to an 11-point increase in the likelihood of getting the answer right.
Listening to NPR also helps, but the biggest aid to answering correctly is
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, which leads to a 6-point decrease
in identifying the protestors as Republicans,
and a 12-point increase in the likelihood of giving the correct answer.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:26 AM   #109
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Ky. Church Bans Interracial Couples From Becoming Members


Read more: http://www.wlky.com/news/29901119/de...#ixzz1fOZSyHrk
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:37 AM   #110
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Gulnare Free Will Baptist Church
Seems "Free Will" only applies if it jibes with my free will.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:38 PM   #111
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The Associated Press
Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:44 am
Pastor says he'll void vote on interracial couples
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PIKEVILLE, Ky. -- The pastor at a Kentucky church says he will nullify
a vote taken by members of his congregation that bans interracial couples.
That's all and good.
But then I read the comments and found this very appropriate.

Comment on this article by Akiva David Miller
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If the church is typically composed of 40 individuals
and 9 of them voted for a hateful, bigoted policy,
that means that the church is pretty much 1/4 racist bigots; that fact
ought to make any racial minority or mixed race couple feel very welcome.

At this point in time the question of whether the church should
welcome mixed race couples isn't the core issue,
the core issue is whether the church is going to welcome those
who practice bigotry and hate in direct contradiction of scripture.

Either the bigots get expelled or the church in practice willfully harbors bigotry and hatred.
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:02 PM   #112
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I think we need to let these small churches stay in obscurity. They do do not deserve any attention and do NOT reflect the views of the majority.
Screaming RACIST CHURCH is great and sells, but it does more harm than good.
JMO.
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:27 PM   #113
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I think we need to let these small churches stay in obscurity. They do do not deserve any attention and do NOT reflect the views of the majority.
Screaming RACIST CHURCH is great and sells, but it does more harm than good.
JMO.
WRONG.

Your position is exactly the wrong position. I think the only way, the best way to make these hateful hypocrites shrivel up and die is to poison them with sunlight like this. You are right, until they'd gotten some publicity, this kind of retarded unAmerican stance would have likely been sustainable. But when *I* followed the link today, the same link now points to a story about the pastor of the church VOIDING the vote of the congregation.

I have to think the exposure of their racist bigotry produced some positive force, some shamefulness that helped motivate the pastor to act as he has.

The whole idea of denying a mixed race couple membership in the church is bullshit anyhow.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:32 PM   #114
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We'll just have to disagree. Utopia does not and never will exist. Publicizing these people only leads more of the weak minded to them, increases their ability to generate money from a broader base and reinforces their message.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:39 PM   #115
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WRONG.
Man, if you ever barked at me in real life like that, I'd fuck you up.

And by "fuck you up" I mean I would glare at you for a moment and then silently move to another table on the other side of the room.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:54 PM   #116
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There is a nice comfortable seat for you right here UT.
I'll buy the first round too.
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:22 PM   #117
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How to shoot yourself in the foot without a gun...

Detroit Free Press
Hope Yen
Dec 4, 2011

Postal cuts to slow delivery of first-class mail
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WASHINGTON — Facing bankruptcy, the U.S. Postal Service is pushing ahead
with unprecedented cuts to first-class mail next spring that will slow delivery and,
for the first time in 40 years, eliminate the chance for stamped letters to arrive the next day.

The changes would provide short-term relief, but ultimately could prove counterproductive,
pushing more of America's business onto the Internet.

They could slow everything from check payments to Netflix's DVDs-by-mail,
add costs to mail-order prescription drugs, and threaten the existence
of newspapers and time-sensitive magazines delivered by postal carrier
to far-flung suburban and rural communities.
If this goes thru, pay attention to DUE DATES on your credit card statements
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:52 PM   #118
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What harm is caused by shining light on this situation? Really? Maybe it wigs you out? Or... embarrasses you? or... I don't know. What kind of harm comes from the openness?

I could see harm if the response were different, say, firebombing the church. But that didn't happen. Calling them out for their stance, I think that's a good thing.

I don't see how

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Publicizing these people only leads more of the weak minded to them, increases their ability to generate money from a broader base and reinforces their message.
Maybe. For those who already believe that way. But for those who were more neutral, I think this kind of exposure helps them make a decision. At least it will be an informed one, rather than just based on a kind of silent association. How would it have been better if this never got any press?
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:35 PM   #119
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How would it have been better if this never got any press?
all 12 of them would die eventually.

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Old 12-04-2011, 09:39 PM   #120
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V, thanks for your recent thoughts.
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