Professor Gates, Harvard's Pride - Page 10

Happy Monkey · 08-11-2009, 11:57 AM

Exactly.

Shawnee123 · 08-11-2009, 12:12 PM

Having the "right" to be a dickhead doesn't mean you HAVE to be a dickhead, especially not to someone who is only following procedure and trying to protect you. Everyone is so concerned that their righteous indignation be heard (a unique though rampant form of attention-whoring) that they forget to even think about the other side, and the implications of behaving like an asshat or acting like a decent person.

It's really that simple.

Happy Monkey · 08-11-2009, 12:41 PM

I don't think I've defended anything but his right to be a dickhead. I certainly don't think he had to be. I fully agree that he was an ass, and shouldn't have been. I've said so several times.

Shawnee123 · 08-11-2009, 12:46 PM

But you believe that, rather than follow procedure, the cop should bow to the asshat?

Happy Monkey · 08-11-2009, 01:32 PM

I don't consider not arresting someone to be bowing.

Shawnee123 · 08-11-2009, 01:34 PM

It is if procedure calls for arrest, and the alleged "perp" (i love that word) gets his way (the cop not following procedure) because the alleged perp is throwing a hissy fit.

I feel safer already. When the drunk down the street decides to kill someone, I'll be glad to know he was able to scare the cop off by crying foul.

OnyxCougar · 08-11-2009, 01:36 PM

So...to clarify, are you saying that the cop should arrest someone even if they aren't doing anything illegal?

spudcon · 08-11-2009, 01:41 PM

The asshat in question did do something illegal, called interfering with government adminitration and disorderly conduct. He wasn't arrested for B&E, or being a dick, he was breaking the law! How many times do you need to be told that?

Shawnee123 · 08-11-2009, 01:48 PM

Understanding that basic fact makes it near impossible for all the boo-hooing poor pitiful me crap to go on. Facts render the unreasonably indignant mute. There's no attention in mute.

TheMercenary · 08-11-2009, 02:30 PM

"Don't taze me bro!"

classicman · 08-11-2009, 02:58 PM

Damn! thats the first I heard of that - Did the cops even have tasers?

TheMercenary · 08-11-2009, 03:01 PM

I have no idea. I just seemed appropriate in the slant of the thread and how some people believe that Gates was some kind of victim in all of this. He was not. If anything he was an instigator. I would have tazed him just for the hell of it. I guess that is why I am not a cop.

Happy Monkey · 08-11-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudcon

The asshat in question did do something illegal, called interfering with government adminitration and disorderly conduct.

He was arrested for disorderly conduct, in his own home. It is all but impossible for that charge to stick. How would he "cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly [create] a risk thereof" in his own home?

Quote:

He wasn't arrested for B&E, or being a dick, he was breaking the law! How many times do you need to be told that?

I'l wait for the first time that it's told to me when true.

TheMercenary · 08-11-2009, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

He was arrested for disorderly conduct, in his own home. It is all but impossible for that charge to stick. How would he "cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly [create] a risk thereof" in his own home?I'l wait for the first time that it's told to me when true.

No, he was arrested outside of his home, on his property, but outside the front door, which is why they could have made it stick. Well until the President of the United States thought it was a good idea to throw in his opinion on a local police matter.

depmats · 08-11-2009, 09:04 PM

Well, it was a color issue and Obama was supposed to fix all that, right?

08-11-2009, 11:57 AM	#136
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Exactly. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-11-2009, 12:12 PM	#137
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Having the "right" to be a dickhead doesn't mean you HAVE to be a dickhead, especially not to someone who is only following procedure and trying to protect you. Everyone is so concerned that their righteous indignation be heard (a unique though rampant form of attention-whoring) that they forget to even think about the other side, and the implications of behaving like an asshat or acting like a decent person. It's really that simple. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-11-2009, 12:41 PM	#138
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I don't think I've defended anything but his right to be a dickhead. I certainly don't think he had to be. I fully agree that he was an ass, and shouldn't have been. I've said so several times. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-11-2009, 12:46 PM	#139
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	But you believe that, rather than follow procedure, the cop should bow to the asshat? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-11-2009, 01:32 PM	#140
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I don't consider not arresting someone to be bowing. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-11-2009, 01:34 PM	#141
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	It is if procedure calls for arrest, and the alleged "perp" (i love that word) gets his way (the cop not following procedure) because the alleged perp is throwing a hissy fit. I feel safer already. When the drunk down the street decides to kill someone, I'll be glad to know he was able to scare the cop off by crying foul. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-11-2009, 01:36 PM	#142
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	So...to clarify, are you saying that the cop should arrest someone even if they aren't doing anything illegal? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

08-11-2009, 01:41 PM	#143
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	The asshat in question *did* do something illegal, called interfering with government adminitration and disorderly conduct. He wasn't arrested for B&E, or being a dick, he was breaking the law! How many times do you need to be told that? __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

08-11-2009, 01:48 PM	#144
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Understanding that basic fact makes it near impossible for all the boo-hooing poor pitiful me crap to go on. Facts render the unreasonably indignant mute. There's no attention in mute. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-11-2009, 02:30 PM	#145
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	"Don't taze me bro!" __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

08-11-2009, 02:58 PM	#146
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Damn! thats the first I heard of that - Did the cops even have tasers? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-11-2009, 03:01 PM	#147
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I have no idea. I just seemed appropriate in the slant of the thread and how some people believe that Gates was some kind of victim in all of this. He was not. If anything he was an instigator. I would have tazed him just for the hell of it. I guess that is why I am not a cop. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

08-11-2009, 09:04 PM	#150
depmats Major Inhabitant Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 124	Well, it was a color issue and Obama was supposed to fix all that, right?

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