Whoa -- is nostrodamus black?

That Guy · 10-11-2001, 12:01 AM

...or is this a wacked out coincidence?
I happened to be in the small office, doing a little paperwork, when I reached the music section (pg38) of the new issue of "Playboy." I was reading the quips about the "latest and greatest bands to hit the scene" when i glanced upon this little album cover for a rap-group called The Coup out of Compton I believe. http://www.wired.com/news/images/full/coup_full.jpg
...Huh?!
I soon did a quick little search across the web, found out the cover art was done long, long ago by some other guy, and it never even went to print. The guys at www.75ark.com (the record label) are *extremely* em-bare-assed, and ask that it not be distro'ed around the net. Therefore I feel it is my duty to ask that you delete it from your cache once you finish reading this

-Blowmee

kaleidoscopic ziggurat · 10-11-2001, 08:47 AM

its not as if the thought of blowing up the WTC is something totally new and unexpected... it nearly happened once before.

Joe · 10-12-2001, 12:16 PM

I heard about that image, then searched the web and never found it, it had been hidden deep. You're right, it was done long before the planes crashed into WTC and is nothing more than an amazing coincidence.

The FBI sent a couple agents to the record company and were satisfied that nothing there was amiss, it was just freak occurence.

The album cover will never be used for a CD, it was in poor taste even before the 911 attack.

What's amazing to me is that the artist had to imagine "what would the WTC look like being blown up?" and got it right on the money. Nothing on the cover suggests an airplane crash as the cause however.

The blast on the cover looks very fiery, in part I believe from the influence of Hollywood. Most people have never seen a real explosion, but have seen hundreds on screen. The (cheaper) movies tend to rely on a lot of flame and not much force in their explosive scenes, because it's safer to burn a few gallons of gas than to explode a real bomb. It makes a lot of effects shots look the same, a big slow fireball, completely unlike an actual high explosive blast.

In the WTC disaster, it really was a fuel burn, so that's my guess as to why the art looks so much the same.

russotto · 10-12-2001, 12:32 PM

Snopes has it up as part of an their "rumors of war" section. I imagine they'll be getting a DMCA takedown notice soon enough.

leif · 10-15-2001, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
The album cover will never be used for a CD, it was in poor taste even before the 911 attack.

I don't agree. Before the attack, this would have been a totally acceptable cover. We see images of stuff getting blown up all the time! Do you always consider it poor taste? Or is it just because this is something that really got blown up? I agree the album cover shouldn't be printed now, in the aftermath, but at the time I think it was just fine.

Quote:

The blast on the cover looks very fiery, in part I believe from the influence of Hollywood. Most people have never seen a real explosion, but have seen hundreds on screen.

Or maybe thats just how computer generated fire tends to look?

Joe · 10-15-2001, 12:33 PM

You're right on both points.

I was just ripping on hollywood for their lame effects.

Then again movies like "Saving Private Ryan" had frightfully real effects shots (like I've ever seen a real bomb, OK) that were very convincing.

I still maintain that *most* use that boring gas shot: Gas in a bucket gets blown into the air, then ignited. Usually a couple stuntmen will fly up from behind a car or something and do a flip in the air before landing off camera. Or it could be a laser beam hitting a forest. Same fireball, couple guys in ewok suits go flying...

kaleidoscopic ziggurat · 10-19-2001, 09:42 AM

that's pretty lame... "question them rodney king styles"?

jivie · 10-19-2001, 11:06 AM

even worse is that the self-interested artists are fighting their record label to actually KEEP the cover!

Joe · 10-19-2001, 11:27 AM

Really?

Do you have any info or links on that?

Wow.

jivie · 10-22-2001, 10:49 AM

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,46771,00.html

couple of SOB's in my opinion

10-11-2001, 12:01 AM	#1
That Guy He who reads, sometimes writes. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: at the keyboard Posts: 791	Whoa -- is nostrodamus black? ...or is this a wacked out coincidence? I happened to be in the small office, doing a little paperwork, when I reached the music section (pg38) of the new issue of "Playboy." I was reading the quips about the "latest and greatest bands to hit the scene" when i glanced upon this little album cover for a rap-group called The Coup out of Compton I believe. http://www.wired.com/news/images/full/coup_full.jpg ...Huh?! I soon did a quick little search across the web, found out the cover art was done long, long ago by some other guy, and it never even went to print. The guys at www.75ark.com (the record label) are extremely em-bare-assed, and ask that it not be distro'ed around the net. Therefore I feel it is my duty to ask that you delete it from your cache once you finish reading this -Blowmee

10-12-2001, 12:16 PM	#3
Joe Master of the Domain Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 221	Dude! You found it! I heard about that image, then searched the web and never found it, it had been hidden deep. You're right, it was done long before the planes crashed into WTC and is nothing more than an amazing coincidence. The FBI sent a couple agents to the record company and were satisfied that nothing there was amiss, it was just freak occurence. The album cover will never be used for a CD, it was in poor taste even before the 911 attack. What's amazing to me is that the artist had to imagine "what would the WTC look like being blown up?" and got it right on the money. Nothing on the cover suggests an airplane crash as the cause however. The blast on the cover looks very fiery, in part I believe from the influence of Hollywood. Most people have never seen a real explosion, but have seen hundreds on screen. The (cheaper) movies tend to rely on a lot of flame and not much force in their explosive scenes, because it's safer to burn a few gallons of gas than to explode a real bomb. It makes a lot of effects shots look the same, a big slow fireball, completely unlike an actual high explosive blast. In the WTC disaster, it really was a fuel burn, so that's my guess as to why the art looks so much the same.

10-15-2001, 12:33 PM	#6
Joe Master of the Domain Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 221	true enough You're right on both points. I was just ripping on hollywood for their lame effects. Then again movies like "Saving Private Ryan" had frightfully real effects shots (like I've ever seen a real bomb, OK) that were very convincing. I still maintain that most use that boring gas shot: Gas in a bucket gets blown into the air, then ignited. Usually a couple stuntmen will fly up from behind a car or something and do a flip in the air before landing off camera. Or it could be a laser beam hitting a forest. Same fireball, couple guys in ewok suits go flying...

10-19-2001, 11:27 AM	#9
Joe Master of the Domain Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 221	no way! Really? Do you have any info or links on that? Wow.

10-11-2001, 08:47 AM	#2
kaleidoscopic ziggurat Coronation Incarnate Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 90	its not as if the thought of blowing up the WTC is something totally new and unexpected... it nearly happened once before.

10-12-2001, 12:32 PM	#4
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	Snopes has it up as part of an their "rumors of war" section. I imagine they'll be getting a DMCA takedown notice soon enough.

10-19-2001, 09:42 AM	#7
kaleidoscopic ziggurat Coronation Incarnate Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 90	that's pretty lame... "question them rodney king styles"?

10-19-2001, 11:06 AM	#8
jivie Fellow-Commoner Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: south florida Posts: 10	even worse is that the self-interested artists are fighting their record label to actually KEEP the cover!

10-22-2001, 10:49 AM	#10
jivie Fellow-Commoner Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: south florida Posts: 10	http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,46771,00.html couple of SOB's in my opinion

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