Give your parents condoms for Christmas

Cloud · 11-29-2007, 03:41 PM

Have you seen the news stories about the growing incidence of HIV/AIDS in people over 50?

Hilarious and sad at the same time.

They think, I guess, that since pregnancy is not an issue, there's no need for protection.

You'd think with older people having lots more contact with health care providers as they do, someone would have thought to test for HIV along the way.

Sadly, the era of free love is long gone.

But it was fun while it lasted!

Perry Winkle · 11-29-2007, 03:53 PM

Did you also hear that the number cited for new HIV/AIDS infections and total infections in Africa has been grossly over-estimated? A greater than 25% over-estimate because of selection bias. Funny, eh.

Cloud · 11-29-2007, 03:57 PM

what is selection bias? A statistical term?

I don't pretend to understand statistics, but I don't believe such an overestimation means there's not a serious problem.

Sundae · 11-29-2007, 04:17 PM

Regardless, charities across the spectrum in Africa think it's a huge problem.
Certainly UK Blood Donors do too - their guidelines concerning having sex with someone recently from Africa are strict.

Anyway - back to OT.
Another reason to be glad my parents are still together!

Clodfobble · 11-29-2007, 04:19 PM

Selection bias means you are not choosing random people to ask.

For example, let's say I wanted to find out how popular the Cellar was compared to other websites, so I posted a poll on the Cellar about it. My results would show that almost 100% of people think the Cellar is awesome! But that would be utterly false because of selection bias.

Cloud · 11-29-2007, 04:31 PM

Thank you, Ms. Clod. So they're . . . only asking people who are being treated already or something?

Sundae · 11-29-2007, 04:36 PM

It may be something like people reporting to health care clinics, and then adding a percentage on for those not yet ill?

But the issues they have with those already diagnosed and those dying/ dead and leaving families are damaging enough.

11-29-2007, 04:39 PM

Why not, my parents bought mine when I was younger. Put them on their account at the pharmacy, was very nice of them.

Perry Winkle · 11-30-2007, 03:16 AM

Sorry to swerve 'off-topic' again, but here's the article I was talking about.

The most interesting bits:

The latest estimates, due to be released publicly Tuesday, put the number of annual new HIV infections at 2.5 million, a cut of more than 40 percent from last year's estimate, documents show. The worldwide total of people infected with HIV -- estimated a year ago at nearly 40 million and rising -- now will be reported as 33 million.

Among the reasons for the overestimate is methodology; U.N. officials traditionally based their national HIV estimates on infection rates among pregnant women receiving prenatal care. As a group, such women were younger, more urban, wealthier and likely to be more sexually active than populations as a whole, according to recent studies.

Some researchers, however, contend that persistent overestimates in the widely quoted U.N. reports have long skewed funding decisions and obscured potential lessons about how to slow the spread of HIV. Critics have also said that U.N. officials overstated the extent of the epidemic to help gather political and financial support for combating AIDS.

The academic bits of the blogosphere have much more on this.

Cloud · 11-30-2007, 09:22 AM

well, good. And now maybe they can address the brutal rape epidemics in parts of Africa, in particular the Congo (DRC) which purportedly, is at least partially fueled by persistent rumers that intercourse with a virgin will cure AIDS.

ZenGum · 11-30-2007, 09:36 AM

We should oppose condoms for seniors! It condones and encourages sexual behavior! We should be teaching abstinence, chastity and purity.
[/fundy]

shina · 11-30-2007, 12:34 PM

At least they are still gettin' it on! Way to go!

classicman · 11-30-2007, 01:37 PM

Gee thanks for that mental image, shina.

Cicero · 11-30-2007, 01:39 PM

No.

Spexxvet · 11-30-2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum

We should oppose condoms for seniors! It condones and encourages sexual behavior! We should be teaching abstinence, chastity and purity.
[/fundy]

They're a bunch of old floozies!

11-29-2007, 03:41 PM	#1
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Give your parents condoms for Christmas Have you seen the news stories about the growing incidence of HIV/AIDS in people over 50? Hilarious and sad at the same time. They think, I guess, that since pregnancy is not an issue, there's no need for protection. You'd think with older people having lots more contact with health care providers as they do, someone would have thought to test for HIV along the way. Sadly, the era of free love is long gone. But it was fun while it lasted! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

11-29-2007, 03:57 PM	#3
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	what is selection bias? A statistical term? I don't pretend to understand statistics, but I don't believe such an overestimation means there's not a serious problem. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

11-29-2007, 04:17 PM	#4
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Regardless, charities across the spectrum in Africa think it's a huge problem. Certainly UK Blood Donors do too - their guidelines concerning having sex with someone recently from Africa are strict. Anyway - back to OT. Another reason to be glad my parents are still together! __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-29-2007, 04:19 PM	#5
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Selection bias means you are not choosing random people to ask. For example, let's say I wanted to find out how popular the Cellar was compared to other websites, so I posted a poll on the Cellar about it. My results would show that almost 100% of people think the Cellar is awesome! But that would be utterly false because of selection bias. Last edited by Clodfobble; 11-29-2007 at 05:27 PM. Reason: holy grammar, Batman!

11-29-2007, 04:31 PM	#6
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Thank you, Ms. Clod. So they're . . . only asking people who are being treated already or something? __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

11-29-2007, 03:53 PM	#2
Perry Winkle Esnohplad Semaj Ton Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 2,259	Did you also hear that the number cited for new HIV/AIDS infections and total infections in Africa has been grossly over-estimated? A greater than 25% over-estimate because of selection bias. Funny, eh.

11-29-2007, 04:36 PM	#7
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	It may be something like people reporting to health care clinics, and then adding a percentage on for those not yet ill? But the issues they have with those already diagnosed and those dying/ dead and leaving families are damaging enough. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-29-2007, 04:39 PM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Why not, my parents bought mine when I was younger. Put them on their account at the pharmacy, was very nice of them.

11-30-2007, 03:16 AM	#9
Perry Winkle Esnohplad Semaj Ton Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 2,259	Sorry to swerve 'off-topic' again, but here's the article I was talking about. The most interesting bits: The latest estimates, due to be released publicly Tuesday, put the number of annual new HIV infections at 2.5 million, a cut of more than 40 percent from last year's estimate, documents show. The worldwide total of people infected with HIV -- estimated a year ago at nearly 40 million and rising -- now will be reported as 33 million. Among the reasons for the overestimate is methodology; U.N. officials traditionally based their national HIV estimates on infection rates among pregnant women receiving prenatal care. As a group, such women were younger, more urban, wealthier and likely to be more sexually active than populations as a whole, according to recent studies. Some researchers, however, contend that persistent overestimates in the widely quoted U.N. reports have long skewed funding decisions and obscured potential lessons about how to slow the spread of HIV. Critics have also said that U.N. officials overstated the extent of the epidemic to help gather political and financial support for combating AIDS. The academic bits of the blogosphere have much more on this.

11-30-2007, 09:22 AM	#10
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	well, good. And now maybe they can address the brutal rape epidemics in parts of Africa, in particular the Congo (DRC) which purportedly, is at least partially fueled by persistent rumers that intercourse with a virgin will cure AIDS. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

11-30-2007, 09:36 AM	#11
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	We should oppose condoms for seniors! It condones and encourages sexual behavior! We should be teaching abstinence, chastity and purity. [/fundy] __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-30-2007, 12:34 PM	#12
shina Hopeful Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 232	At least they are still gettin' it on! Way to go!

11-30-2007, 01:37 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Gee thanks for that mental image, shina.

11-30-2007, 01:39 PM	#14
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	No. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

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