11-13-2011, 05:10 PM | #76 |
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Storage is one technique for adapting to a changing load. Electricity is another technique to address the actual problem.
This is old technology. Implemented even in 1930 diesel electric locomotives to make another poor system redundant - steam locomotives. Steam locomotive was obsoleted quickly because it could not adapt to a changing load. |
12-02-2011, 10:13 PM | #77 | |
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From the NY Times of 2 Dec 2011:
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The Governor of PA has been taking major campaign contributions for stifling all regulation on these drillers. Has insisted all this has not contaminated water supplies. Has banned taxes on any of these wells except by the local county. Even townships get nothing from the risk that they are stuck with long after the drilling companies have no more responsibility. Cities such as Pittsburgh and Philadelphia must suffer risk to their water supplies but get no money from the mineral rights. Burial of toxic chemicals inside plastic sheets is supposed to protect the water? Nonsense. They can leave extremely toxic chemicals on the land. PA Governor Tom Corbett says that is safe. |
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12-02-2011, 11:48 PM | #78 |
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Put simply, the federal laws are slanted in favor of shielding fracking operations,
and state laws are currently insufficient to protect the public interests. It's up to citizens in each state to get ahead of the fracking industry by getting state laws updated enough to protect land owners and water resouces. Of course, the fracking industry is relatively certain this won't happen in time to stop them. . |
12-03-2011, 08:29 AM | #79 |
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Hey, we allow poisons in our air and rat shit in our food, why start regulating now?
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12-03-2011, 09:01 AM | #80 |
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There is an improved version of fracking on the way called liquified petroleum gas fracking that will eliminate the use of water which has been a major problem.
I'm assuming the the buried waste is being contained the same way landfills do it, which may not be good enough. I don't know the level of contamination we're talking about though. The whole system needs to be transparent, but Corbett and Cabot hate that idea. We are talking about one player, Cabot, which has proven to be a corner cutter and ought to be cut out of the picture. The water delivery thing is a made for media event, however. Cabot was going to hook them to municipal water, but they refused. They then offered to put methane elimination in each house and were refused. They didn't want the problem dealt with, probably due to lawyerly intervention looking for a big cash payout, which is understandable. The contamination is upper level methane which existed in their water to some extent but may have been exacerbated but improper concreting. They do not have fracking chemicals in their well water. The lefty mayor of Binghamton is now inserting himself into the situation, so there will be many photo ops.
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Griff, thanks for finding this article.
It's the first I've seen that seems to offer any better way to go. Like any "new" idea, there are always questions lingering in the background. Some are discussed in the link provided within your article. The one of greatest concern right now seems to be the US patent and proprietary aspects of implementation. Apparently the patent is awaiting US approval, and held by a small company that may not be able to service the entire industry. Plus the wait-and-see attitude of the existing fracking companies. In the meantime the "water-fracking" companies will continue doing what they do. Cost and potential danger of explosions have to be considered, but these are routine bean-counter and technical steps along the way. Again Griff, good catch. |
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Your congress in action - working for the good of (his) people
NY Times ERIC LIPTON 12/3/11 As Gas Riches Remake Plains, Lawmaker Shares in Bounty Quote:
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The (E) elite party... The (Letter) after their name means very little anymore other than which sales pitch they are throwing.
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12-04-2011, 03:54 PM | #84 |
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Lots of borderline criminal stuff going on here. A couple local lawyers were representing gas companies and land-owners and buying property to lease to the gas companies... They didn't even get dis(?)barred even though they clearly had a conflict of interest.
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And the damages to water resources continues,
but now EPA had joined the friggin fracking fracus. LA Times Neela Banerjee, Washington Bureau December 8, 2011 EPA says 'fracking' probably contaminated well water in Wyoming Quote:
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The Feds are looking into the Dimock situation after the state DEP essentially sided with the gas company. I'd been pretty skeptical of the land-owner claims assuming some level of neutrality at DEP. We'll see what the Feds say. Dem President and Rep Governor somebody or everybody is letting political expediency guide what should be a clear issue of environmental testing. Yay for election years...
There is also another new fracking method coming on line that is more an expansion of the old technique than a less controversial technology. Interesting times...
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In much the same way as the Atlantic ocean is a border between North America and Europe.
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EPA: Water quality OK in Pa. gas drilling town
Contamination in Dimock wells within safe levels, it says SCRANTON, Pa. -- Federal environmental regulators said Thursday that well water testing at 11 homes in a northeastern Pennsylvania village where a gas driller was accused of polluting the aquifer failed to show elevated levels of contamination. The Environmental Protection Agency, which is sampling well water at dozens of homes in Dimock, Susquehanna County, said initial test results "did not show levels of contamination that could present a health concern." Dimock has been at the center of a fierce debate over the environmental and public health impacts of Pennsylvania's Marcellus Shale drilling industry. State environmental regulators had previously determined that Houston-based Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. contaminated the aquifer underneath homes along Carter Road in Dimock with explosive levels of methane gas. Residents who are suing Cabot assert their water is also polluted with drilling chemicals. Many other residents of Dimock say that the water is clean and that the plaintiffs are exaggerating problems with their wells to help their lawsuit.
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Dimock? Isn't that Cantonese for death touch?
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