Helicopter Towing A Barge

Gravdigr · 10-11-2009, 03:31 AM

Not sure if this is bullshit or not, although my meter is chirping preeeetty damn loud. Whatcha think? Bullshit, or not?

More info http://www.pprune.org/3541135-post333.html

xoxoxoBruce · 10-11-2009, 08:30 PM

That's Columbia Helicopters, click on "Hover Barge Photo", on the right scroll.

I have that poster... I may have worked on that 107.

TheMercenary · 10-12-2009, 01:04 PM

I lean toward total BS due to lack of rotor wash on the ice. You would see some kind of turbulence either way, esp with water there.

Pie · 10-12-2009, 03:52 PM

Good point, Merc.

zippyt · 10-12-2009, 05:18 PM

if the Helo was Horizontal i would agree , But as you can see it is Pitched forward ,

Henry · 10-12-2009, 05:24 PM

BS

1. No rotor wash, as already mentioned.
2. Tow cable way too short, leaving zero room for error.
3. Check the reflection of the heli in the water in the foreground. It ain't quite right.

Less sure about this, but couldn't that model helicopter simply lift the barge right out of the water and drop it wherever?

TheMercenary · 10-12-2009, 05:46 PM

I don't know about that one. Chinook sling load capable up to 26,000 lb center hook, 17,000 lb forward/aft hook, 25,000 lb tandem.

TheMercenary · 10-12-2009, 05:57 PM

Rotor wash over water.

jinx · 10-12-2009, 06:21 PM

Did y'all miss Bruce's post or....?

dar512 · 10-12-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

Did y'all miss Bruce's post or....?

Very politely worded.

I have now.

TheMercenary · 10-12-2009, 07:17 PM

Still doesn't look right, regardless of the comercial website claims. But what eva...

It would be the CH-46A Sea Knight, not a Chinook, but a mini-Chinook.

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The Civilian version, the BV 107-II Vertol[15] was developed prior to the military CH-46, and was operated commercially by New York Airways, Pan American World Airways and currently solely by Columbia Helicopters

Quote:

A 4,535kg capacity hook for external loads is installed in a cargo hatch in the floor.

= 9977 pounds.

Everything you always wanted to know about the Boeing Vertol:

http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_...rtol_ch-46.php

jinx · 10-12-2009, 07:24 PM

It doesn't look right because you're seeing it thru a telephoto lense, not just your eyes.

Here's a nice wiki on perspective distortion.

classicman · 10-12-2009, 07:50 PM

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La foto fue tomada por Ted de ternera de manera que el helicóptero parece estar más cerca del hielo de lo que realmente es. Véase también el mes de fondo de escritorio decorado con helicópteros de Columbia.

Elspode · 10-12-2009, 09:44 PM

I'm going with whatever Bruce says since he builds the fucking things.

TheMercenary · 10-13-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

I'm going with whatever Bruce says since he builds the fucking things.

I have no idea what he does for a living but I believe you. I'm cool with it. I was more of an end user when it came to those things.

10-11-2009, 03:31 AM	#1
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Helicopter Towing A Barge Not sure if this is bullshit or not, although my meter is chirping preeeetty damn loud. Whatcha think? Bullshit, or not? More info http://www.pprune.org/3541135-post333.html Attached Images __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-11-2009, 08:30 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's Columbia Helicopters, click on "Hover Barge Photo", on the right scroll. I have that poster... I may have worked on that 107. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-12-2009, 01:04 PM	#3
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I lean toward total BS due to lack of rotor wash on the ice. You would see some kind of turbulence either way, esp with water there. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-12-2009, 03:52 PM	#4
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Good point, Merc. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

10-12-2009, 05:18 PM	#5
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	if the Helo was Horizontal i would agree , But as you can see it is Pitched forward , __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

10-12-2009, 05:24 PM	#6
Henry King Of Oreos Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Possum Holler NC Posts: 33	BS 1. No rotor wash, as already mentioned. 2. Tow cable way too short, leaving zero room for error. 3. Check the reflection of the heli in the water in the foreground. It ain't quite right. Less sure about this, but couldn't that model helicopter simply lift the barge right out of the water and drop it wherever? __________________ When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. ~ Mark Twain

10-12-2009, 05:46 PM	#7
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I don't know about that one. Chinook sling load capable up to 26,000 lb center hook, 17,000 lb forward/aft hook, 25,000 lb tandem. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-12-2009, 05:57 PM	#8
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Rotor wash over water. Attached Images __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-12-2009, 06:21 PM	#9
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Did y'all miss Bruce's post or....? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

10-12-2009, 07:24 PM	#12
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	It doesn't look right because you're seeing it thru a telephoto lense, not just your eyes. Here's a nice wiki on perspective distortion. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

10-12-2009, 09:44 PM	#14
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I'm going with whatever Bruce says since he builds the fucking things. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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