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07-19-2004, 06:57 PM | #31 |
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ok, let's go on
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07-19-2004, 07:06 PM | #32 | |
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07-19-2004, 08:47 PM | #33 | |
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I wonder what Bush will do if a military conflict does flare up between China and Taiwan. I guess the US is already fully committed elsewhere?
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07-19-2004, 09:04 PM | #34 | |
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Only in terms of ground troops. We have plenty ships and missiles and other equipment. But then again, I dont know. I'm certain someone will have more to add. |
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07-19-2004, 11:33 PM | #35 |
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Hope peace...
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07-20-2004, 12:19 AM | #36 |
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bluesdave, a case of grumbling and echos, from what I can get my grubby paws on it seems someone tipped off a hostile intel service about something funny going on which bounced up the line resulting in the recent exercises in the region which didn't amuse china...There is a serious internal battle going on inside the chinese government at the moment.
The biggest danger is if war results due to internal.....unfriendlyness inside the chinese government at the moment, this is a real possibility. Both sides are rational and the ramifications from China would be both large and highly detrimental, I have interests in 2 facilities in China and I know if such an event occurred I'd be pulling escape clauses and getting the hell out.
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07-20-2004, 01:22 AM | #37 |
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Thanks Jag.
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07-20-2004, 09:27 AM | #38 |
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I don't think China navy is strong enough. We still afraid that the USA and other western countries, especially Enlglish, will block China.
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07-20-2004, 09:39 AM | #39 |
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I posted good Kuangfu movie pix in Entertainment. Hope you go to see and like.
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07-20-2004, 11:57 AM | #40 | |
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07-20-2004, 02:19 PM | #41 | |
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Taiwan deserves its independence, particularly as a country that for 50-60 years has worked diligently at progressing its own politics and economy. In the golden ages, one would not be surprised at the prospect of a war, but this is 2004 and that is just ridiculous. Taiwan and most of eastern China are far, far beyond third-world status. What the hell does China want with an island the size of New Jersey, anyway? To feed off its export economy, which is far superior (in proportion) to China's GDP (which actually isn't so bad, just diluted by a large population). U.S. has pledged its support for Taiwan in the event of an assault - Naval fleet will move out of Japan and other South Pacific bases can mobilize quickly. That would be a spectacular clash of nations. President Chen has my full support and that of my entire family as well. I hope China will come to its senses one day and rid of this ridiculous "special autonomous region" bullshit. |
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07-20-2004, 02:46 PM | #42 |
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breakingnews, you might want to read some Chinese history to understand how and why.
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07-20-2004, 02:58 PM | #43 | |
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I won't say I'm an expert on Chinese history (not modern chinese history at least - I've studied ancient history through a few centuries ago). |
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07-20-2004, 03:05 PM | #44 | |
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People say the election was won by too small of a margin, that Chen staged his own assassination attempt the day before the election to draw sympathy votes. Demonstrators protested night and day the minute the results were announced, right through the court's ruling that the election was valid. Probably are rallies still going on there and across the Formosa strait in China, too. |
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07-20-2004, 03:33 PM | #45 |
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One China, the idea that Taiwan and Tibet (and some other geographical oddities) has been a central part of communist national spirit for decades, what you're seeing in this thread is a demonstration of how a nationalised education designed to drive an agenda embeds an opinion in national psyche. It's all about national spirit, geopolitics and economics be damned. Thankfully economic intergration means too many people have too much to lose but it's going to be used as a pole to beat certain governmental figures around the head with and everyone will get a little uppity while they sort out who's boss.
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